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Noumenon - Nov 17, 2002 4:12:18 pm PST #1554 of 10000
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

It might close it too early, however, if they intended to write "<b><i>Bold and Italic</b> rules!"</i> They'd get "<b><i>Bold and Italic</i></b> rules!" Not a problem for italics, but a table might get messed up that way.

Edit: much editing.


§ ita § - Nov 17, 2002 4:13:48 pm PST #1555 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If people don't want their tags closed too early, they should close them right. I'm very unconcerned with trying to get an individual post presented as the user wanted it. I'm very concerned with not messing up subsequent posts, or the page as a whole.


Rob - Nov 17, 2002 4:14:10 pm PST #1556 of 10000

I like the array of tag references, with a modification that when you find a closing tag, search the list backwards for an open. If you find it, remove it. If you don't, ignore it, possibly bitching to the poster about their bad HTML.

At the end, put in a close tag for every open tag still in the array.

From John's analysis of the page that broke editing, it looks like the author used mismatching quotes, single at the start and double at the end. I think my suggestion of counting quotes in a tag would solve that, since it would put in a closing single quote before the >. The post would still look wrong, but it would be editable.


Hil R. - Nov 17, 2002 4:16:44 pm PST #1557 of 10000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Hil -- with your scenario, it would only close the <c> once -- since it's only open once.

So once it closed the c, the opening one would be deleted from the table, even though it didn't get to where the poster wanted to close the c yet? So then the order would be t /c t /a t /b t /a t /c , I think.

Tables do seem to be what cause the worst damage, while things like italics and sizes just create annoyances. Would disabling tables and making them a quickedit thing make it better, or just more confusing?


§ ita § - Nov 17, 2002 4:18:08 pm PST #1558 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think a quickedit table (table, td, tr, th plus attributes of width and colour and alignment and stuff) would be more confusing. I'd lean towards disabling them completely, except no! I don't want to! I like and use them pretty often.

So I'm pretty torn.


Hil R. - Nov 17, 2002 4:20:48 pm PST #1559 of 10000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

To deal with things like the " ' mismatch, could you just keep track of how many double-quotes are withing the brackets, and if there isn't an even number, treat it as if it was an invalid tag and just ignore it? Or are there times where there should be an odd number of double-quotes?


Noumenon - Nov 17, 2002 4:20:59 pm PST #1560 of 10000
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

ita, aren't your tables cut-and-pasted, so you could link to them? Or you could post at W/X and link. Don't know if anyone else uses tables. Tables are trouble. Remember how at Table Talk (hee) you could post pictures by making them the background of a table cell?


Michele T. - Nov 17, 2002 4:21:34 pm PST #1561 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Could you disable tables (heh) for non-admins? Or are we getting way too complex here?


§ ita § - Nov 17, 2002 4:25:24 pm PST #1562 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Nope. Most of my tables are assembled from other sources (either by hand, or from Excel) so there's not really any linkage.

Of course, if I'm the only one using them ... that's not a good enough reason to keep them.

Hil, and we'd also need to count the single quotes. Problem being, i think you can legally nest a single " inside ' ', and vice versa.


Noumenon - Nov 17, 2002 4:37:19 pm PST #1563 of 10000
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

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