uhh OK. So I'm a geek. But Nulls aside, if you need it, Codd totally has your back on the non-meaningful primary key thing.
Wait. People? She eats people? 'To Serve Man.' It's 'To Serve Man' all over again.
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Typo Boy - Nov 15, 2002 3:02:42 pm PST #1502 of 10000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
§ ita § - Nov 15, 2002 3:06:13 pm PST #1503 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
We were discussing non-meaningful primary keys? When?
Typo Boy - Nov 15, 2002 3:11:56 pm PST #1504 of 10000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
John H. mentioned as an aside that someone at his work is opposed to non-meaningful primary keys. John H is (rightfully in my opinion) strongly in favor of them. I was just mentioning that Date (of Codd and Date) gives strong theoretical support for surrogate keys - in case the guy might be impressed by that sort of cite. And then I made a joke about an old Date+Codd dispute over nulls, which exposed as having an unneccesarily obscure sense of humor. OK,not everyone has a favorite database theorist...
§ ita § - Nov 15, 2002 3:13:43 pm PST #1505 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Sorry. I guess I skimmed. I thought it was in reference to the Phoenix.
Typo Boy - Nov 15, 2002 3:20:47 pm PST #1506 of 10000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Yeah - my fault for nattering in what is supposed to be a natter resistant zone...
John H - Nov 15, 2002 11:39:02 pm PST #1507 of 10000
It's not that the guy at work was in favour of them, more that he kept coming up with meaningful data that seemed to him like he'd found the right key, and I was trying to sell the concept of the arbitrary key to him.
I'm one step ahead of him, but roughly seventy-three steps behind you guys, it seems.
Typo Boy - Nov 16, 2002 12:26:25 am PST #1508 of 10000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
I've even run into this with fellow database analysts (who are supposed to bnow the theory). They claim to understand the concept, but see all these cases for exceptions - which makes it seem to me that they don't really understand the theory.
Noumenon - Nov 16, 2002 10:34:11 am PST #1509 of 10000
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti
SpikeMe got a post eaten and kicked back to the home page -- that's a new one. Wasn't SpikeMe the same one who Read New went to the middle of the thread, too? Wonder what's up with that.
Edit: and no yellow box. It's a browser detective story.
§ ita § - Nov 16, 2002 10:56:18 am PST #1510 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
She was on the wrong screen, I think. She did make it here, but it logged her out again. So she e-mailed instead.
It seems like an AOL issue, but one that Allyson, for instance, isn't happening.
Sue - Nov 16, 2002 1:43:24 pm PST #1511 of 10000
hip deep in pie
She did say it took her 20 minutes to type her post, weren't other people getting errors if the DB timed out their session before they hit post? Could it be a combo of a time-out error and AOL?