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victor infante - Apr 21, 2009 5:35:54 am PDT #4547 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Doesn't that mean that he shouldn't have access to all his other powers while he's shapechanged into someone else's form?

Maybe, maybe not. It depends on the rewriting, but to say he shouldn't have access to all his powers is a bit of an assumption. He's obviously got a couple of his powers, still, such as the healing and psychometry, but perhaps he doesn't have access to other abilities he's picked up. Who can say? We have no context to answer that question.

(It's a bit like the "why didn't the dead shapechanger revert to his real form?" question. We only make that assumption because the only shapechangers we've ever seen are fictional, and they tend to do that. But I don't see any reason why that would have to be the case.)

Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 21, 2009 5:55:51 am PDT #4548 of 5028
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Actually it makes sense to me that they wouldn't transform back. Whatever mechanism powered the shape changing in the first place is presumably shut down upon death, so there's nothing to "make" the body resume its previous appearance.

victor infante - Apr 21, 2009 6:00:09 am PDT #4549 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Actually it makes sense to me that they wouldn't transform back. Whatever mechanism powered the shape changing in the first place is presumably shut down upon death, so there's nothing to "make" the body resume its previous appearance.

Yeah, that's always kinda where I've been at.

Jessica - Apr 21, 2009 6:05:33 am PDT #4550 of 5028
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I think the initial confusion came from S1's shapeshifter (Candace?) whose power did not change her real physical body but merely projected an illusion of such. So when she died, she did revert back to her original form because her power - the projection - was turned off.

Vortex - Apr 21, 2009 6:14:46 am PDT #4551 of 5028
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Her power isn't shapeshifting, she's an illusionist.

Jessica - Apr 21, 2009 6:19:08 am PDT #4552 of 5028
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Her power isn't shapeshifting, she's an illusionist.

Yes, but in practice, there wasn't much of a difference. With a few notable exceptions, her power was almost always used in the same way Sylar is using the shapeshifting now.

§ ita § - Apr 21, 2009 7:26:55 am PDT #4553 of 5028
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I am so with you, LeN. Now that Sylar can change the DNA of his clothing he's way too OTT for me.

Trudy Booth - Apr 21, 2009 7:31:19 am PDT #4554 of 5028
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

The clothing changing seems like the clothing going invisible on invisible people -- common enough handwavium that I can live with it.

Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 21, 2009 7:35:23 am PDT #4555 of 5028
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'll just pretend that Zachary QuintoSylar is actually naked and just altering his skin to look like the clothing of the person he's imitating.

§ ita § - Apr 21, 2009 7:35:34 am PDT #4556 of 5028
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If they hadn't made such noise about DNA changing, it might only be something I wondered about. It used to be subtle, but now it's insane, and it just helps me dislike the degree of power they've amped him up to. Removing the knife is just the last straw.

I want him dead or depowered.

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