Angel: How're you feeling? Faith: Like I did mushrooms and got eaten by a bear.

'A Hole in the World'


Heroes 1: We Could Be Heroes  

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Wolfram - Nov 27, 2007 7:41:33 am PST #3196 of 5028
Visilurking

Peter is reaching Mohinder-like levels of stupidity with this storyline. How many people are going to warn him against Adam before he realizes what he's planning to do?

Seriously. After Hiro warns him, you'd think he'd reevaluate the plan to help Adam get the super-deadly that, oh yeah, kills like 93 trillion people.


Polter-Cow - Nov 27, 2007 7:57:59 am PST #3197 of 5028
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

It's not like Hiro doesn't have any experience saving the world or anything.


sumi - Nov 27, 2007 7:59:47 am PST #3198 of 5028
Art Crawl!!!

And so far as I can remember Peter had no reason NOT to trust Hiro.


Ailleann - Nov 27, 2007 8:31:06 am PST #3199 of 5028
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

And so far as I can remember Peter had no reason NOT to trust Hiro.

If we're supposed to think that Peter has bonded so much with Adam that he trusts him more than Hiro, we should have seen more of that. Hiro should trump Peter's boyfriend Adam in this case.


victor infante - Nov 27, 2007 8:45:25 am PST #3200 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Hiro should trump Peter's boyfriend Adam in this case.

Why? Peter's only met Hiro twice -- Future!Hiro, who gave him a cryptic warning about the future, and Present!Hiro for all of about five seconds as he stabbed Sylar and disappeared. Really, Peter knows they were on the same side then, but other than that, he knows nothing about him, and that situation doesn't have much bearing on this one. Now, if Nathan was in Peter's place, it would be different, because Nathan actually knows Hiro a little better. But Peter doesn't really know him from, well, Adam.


Pix - Nov 27, 2007 8:50:08 am PST #3201 of 5028
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

But Peter doesn't really know him from, well, Adam.
Victor is my hero.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 27, 2007 8:52:03 am PST #3202 of 5028
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think that would have played much better if Peter had trusted Hiro but assumed he was mistaken rather than apparently forcefully choosing sides.

Even then, knowing that today is the day the Shanti Virus starts decimating the public, and that it's been safely locked away for 30 years without incident, and that the guy who wants to liberate it for "safekeeping" has just unnecessarily killed someone before your eyes and been identified as a murderer by a separate witness...


Pix - Nov 27, 2007 8:55:51 am PST #3203 of 5028
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

I have a pent up grumbly post about last night's episode brewing, but I'm supposed to be, well, working right now. Dammit. Mostly I agree with what everyone else has said, though I am so over Sylar. DIE already. And take the other twin with you.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 27, 2007 9:08:32 am PST #3204 of 5028
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I am so over Sylar.

It's been a pretty useless resurrection, hasn't it. It would have been perfect to have had him really be dead last season, since they had Adam waiting in the wings (it also would have spared us from the twins and the ricockulously stupid death of whashernameshapeshifter).


victor infante - Nov 27, 2007 9:20:14 am PST #3205 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

It would have been perfect to have had him really be dead last season, since they had Adam waiting in the wings (it also would have spared us from the twins and the ricockulously stupid death of whashernameshapeshifter).

Actually, if they had to bring him back, the last few minutes of next episode might have been perfect. Would have cleared out a lot of space.

But that being said, I think a lot of the problems people have had this season have been less writing problems than directing problems. For example, I have no issue with the somewhat desperate Peter and Hiro mindlessly brawling for a few minutes -- I am a comic book fan, after all, and it's kind of a classic. But what needed to happen was for the direction to convey that desperation, and that's not just a function of script, and the pace overall has been .... leisurely. Everything's happening too slow to make it feel like the characters are making snap decisions under pressure, although intellectually I know that's what's happening.