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Heroes 1: We Could Be Heroes  

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Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 13, 2007 11:30:39 am PDT #2141 of 5028
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Yeah, but it's also in a filmed medium and that First Man Down Is the Brotha trope probably has more cultural inertia behind it at this point.


Laga - Oct 13, 2007 6:31:39 pm PDT #2142 of 5028
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

First Man Down Is the Brotha

Aww man why you gotta point out racism in the media? I totally missed that one. Out of curiosity, what makes DL the first man down? Does Isaac not count because we already knew he was doomed?


DebetEsse - Oct 13, 2007 6:36:25 pm PDT #2143 of 5028
Woe to the fucking wicked.

And Eden


Jon B. - Oct 13, 2007 6:43:39 pm PDT #2144 of 5028
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Wasn't the first man down the Elderly Magical Negro?


sumi - Oct 13, 2007 6:46:43 pm PDT #2145 of 5028
Art Crawl!!!

Molly's parents.


Jon B. - Oct 14, 2007 4:29:45 am PDT #2146 of 5028
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Eh, I don't count characters we never got to see alive.


victor infante - Oct 14, 2007 4:46:24 am PDT #2147 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Aww man why you gotta point out racism in the media? I totally missed that one. Out of curiosity, what makes DL the first man down? Does Isaac not count because we already knew he was doomed?

Well ... if you only count lead characters, Simone was first down, followed by Isaac.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 14, 2007 4:52:05 am PDT #2148 of 5028
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Oops, I'd kind of forgotten about Isaac. But there's still a disturbing preponderance of African-American chracters among the ones that have died. I mean, I guess they should get props for having that much of a mixed cast at all, but I don't like the ratio of how many didn't make it past the season finale.


Theodosia - Oct 14, 2007 5:15:32 am PDT #2149 of 5028
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I wouldn't criticize Heroes too much for having Magical Negroes too much because they're not any more extraordinary than the rest of the characters -- in fact, they should have more un-Magical Negroes if anything.

However, you can't discount the fact that some of the characters may have been written out because the actors wished to leave, et cetera.

Because the show is so very structurally episodic, I'm holding on to the hope that the story we've seen so far will pay off in good ways that I'm not foreseeing just yet. As a trend though, I think that the regression of the female characters power and agency may reflect on Bryan Fuller's departure.


kat perez - Oct 14, 2007 10:37:59 am PDT #2150 of 5028
"We have trust issues." Mylar

I think Heroes has been fairly equal opportunity in who's bitten the bullet. You have Isaac, Simone, Linderman, DL, Evil!Eric Roberts, lots of B-list Heroes (thanks, Sylar!) like Eden and the superhearing lady, the melted metal guy, Charlie, now Kaito's dead. You could make a Benneton ad with that group.