Kaylee: H-how did you... g-get on...? Early: Strains the mind a bit, don't it? You think you're all alone. Maybe I come down the chimney, Kaylee. Bring presents to the good girls and boys.

'Objects In Space'


Heroes 1: We Could Be Heroes  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the show and ancillary materials such as web comics! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. Chuffa, Chuffa!


DXMachina - Mar 09, 2007 1:28:04 pm PST #177 of 5028
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

So discussion would be current comic in whitefont, comics dating from before the last aired episode in blackfont?

I was originally thinking of no discussion of the current comic at all until the ep airs, mostly because I dislike white font. Thinking about it, though, I can see where people may misremember when the comic appeared. At least when we whitefont folks tend to be more cautious. What do people think?


Topic!Cindy - Mar 09, 2007 4:54:04 pm PST #178 of 5028
What is even happening?

I know what you mean, but if history has shown that the comic has had spoilery material in the past, isn't it better to be safe than sorry? *sigh* I feel like I'm being a bitch here, but our spoiler definition came to be after much discussion. Regardless of whether the comics are meant to be a companion to the series, I think that we should stick with our original defintion of spoiler, unles we want to change that.

For what it's worth to the comics/blackfont discussion, here's the wording of Theo's proposal, which provided for discussion of the comic and other ancillaries:

Proposal: That we add a new thread to the TV and Film Discussion Folder specifically dedicated to Heroes.

The tentative title is We Could Be Heroes, with the description specifying that it is for discussion of the TV series and ancillary materials such as web comics.

The thread shall be designated as NAFDA.

Still, I don't want people to feel spoiled, or avoid the thread. And Vortex, you're not being a bitch. You're giving your opinion.


Dana - Mar 09, 2007 4:58:34 pm PST #179 of 5028
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

It's not an issue that will cause me to avoid the thread, FWIW.


Liese S. - Mar 09, 2007 6:16:13 pm PST #180 of 5028
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Okay, I just caught up in the other thread ('cause I just now watched BSG & Dresden, which, okay, I know justifies the creation of this thread, leave me alone in my hypocrisy of anti-proliferation) and I have to comment about the speculation about the Hatian's psionic nullification powers.

It seems to my spotty memory that he has to physically touch the victim in order to draw the memories out, yes? So that wouldn't work so much for the "makes them forget how to use their powers" version of his power nullification, since that can be done livetime and with just proximity.

I definitely subscribe to victor's side effect of psionic ability theory.


Liese S. - Mar 09, 2007 6:16:43 pm PST #181 of 5028
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Also, I just like to say psionic. psionic, psionic, psionic. The word loses all meaning.


Theodosia - Mar 10, 2007 3:27:03 am PST #182 of 5028
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

FWIW, my original instinct with the blurb was, since we would have a dedicated topic, we could discuss the series in the totality that it's presented to us by the creators, since the webcomics are fully in canon.

Mind you, that's with me not having actually READ the damn comics, which I'm going to remedy, Real Soon Now.

BUT, aside from having proposed the thread, I sure don't OWN it and have no more say than any other thread participant, aside from weighing in on what I meant in my original proposal.

What with series more fully utilizing the innertubes with webisodes and whatnot, it may be time to set up a new spoiler policy for dealing with creator material meant to be part of the fan experience. As a rule of thumb, I'd say yes to webisodes, web comics, deleted scenes, and no to commentaries and episodes released early on the web (whether official or not), no to non-canonical tie-in materials such as books.

But I'd want to have it be a group consensus, because we want a common ground to discuss stuff on, because fan speculation ideally needs to take into account plot stuff that "officially" happens not on the screen.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 10, 2007 4:01:44 am PST #183 of 5028
What is even happening?

What with series more fully utilizing the innertubes with webisodes and whatnot, it may be time to set up a new spoiler policy for dealing with creator material meant to be part of the fan experience. As a rule of thumb, I'd say yes to webisodes, web comics, deleted scenes, and no to commentaries and episodes released early on the web (whether official or not), no to non-canonical tie-in materials such as books.

This is what works in my head, too. Story canon: fair game; Meta knowledge and previews: foul.

I appreciate the spirit of the suggestion about white fonting for a week, but I'm afraid I'd screw it up. My story memory is more narrative than visual. That is, I'm unlikely to remember whether Peter got the glayvin in a web comic or in an episode. I'm just going to remember that Peter has the glayvin.

But...I'm not married to my position. I fancy it. I'd date it. I'd likely neck with it. But we're not serious.


Nutty - Mar 10, 2007 4:06:07 am PST #184 of 5028
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I would just like to make it known how irritating I find it that the writers are now asking me to do homework. Dude! I watched your show! What the hell else do you want, algebra??

IOW, I'm kind of a purist about canonicity. If it ain't on the show, it better not be important for my comprehension of the show, because I ain't readin it. (Also, I mean, hello to the opportunity for error/retcon! Cause we don't have enough continuity errors in an actual show, we need more opportunities for error to creep in.)

Which is nothing about the spoiler policy for this thread or any other, just grumble grumble get offa my lawn.


Sheryl - Mar 10, 2007 6:23:01 am PST #185 of 5028
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

I'm in the curmudgeon corner with Nutty on this. It's a major peeve I have with Lost, so seeing it happen here makes me cranky.


le nubian - Mar 10, 2007 6:32:52 am PST #186 of 5028
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

FWIW, I was pretty resistant to reading the comics (I know this will make me a pariah, but I don't like comics as a medium generally - we will see if Whedon makes me change my mind). Anyway, the comics take NO time to read. If you have a decent internet connection, all told, it might take you 15 minutes to read it online.

The 10th wonder also posts descriptions of the comic every time (if you would prefer that). They are pretty attentive to spoiler warnings, so you can subscribe to the blog and listen to the podcast and not be spoiled until you get to a clearly identified SPOILER section.

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