Love makes you do the wacky.

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Heroes 1: We Could Be Heroes  

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le nubian - Jun 01, 2007 5:48:29 am PDT #1471 of 5028
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Windsparrow, for Mama Petrelli, it is a bit more problematic than even that.

She really thought it would "save the world" if all of NYC went down. So it wasn't even appropriate for her to try to save her son Peter from decades of guilt. She could have stopped all this crap from coming about in the first place if she had just put Peter under anesthesia for a week or two.


Jon B. - Jun 01, 2007 6:12:27 am PDT #1472 of 5028
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

>I'm hope we find that Mama Petrelli's certainty has been shaken up a little next season.

I should hope so, given that she was certain NYC would go boom. I don't think she wanted the explosion to happen; but she thought it was inevitable and wanted to make the best of it.


Burrell - Jun 01, 2007 12:32:41 pm PDT #1473 of 5028
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I think the Salon article above makes a good argument for Nathan's actions, in Nathan's rejection of killing as a solution mirroring his rejection of letting people die for a hypothetical greater good -- it's ultimately a rejection of doing evil for allegedly good ends.

I did like the Salon article. It still posits really a narrative- or plot-driven reason for Nathan's actions, but as I said, I think his actions *were* driven by plot/narrative needs, not logical ones.

What I like about the Salon article is the contrast it draws between 24 and Heroes as responses to 9/11. I do like the way Heroes addresses the ethical problem of bad actions for good reasons as a misapplication of utilitarian ethics.


esse - Jun 01, 2007 2:00:58 pm PDT #1474 of 5028
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Like it's not traumatic to watch your dad shoot your brother in the head? Plus, Nathan didn't know the special spot.

Yes he did. He saw Peter dead and then alive again after the glass shard was removed, so he knew that an object, whether a bullet or some other materiel, inserted at that point would render Peter dead.


Ginger - Jun 01, 2007 2:30:13 pm PDT #1475 of 5028
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I think you're asking a bit much of Nathan. His brother is about to explode any second. He goes with what he knows, which is flying.


Vortex - Jun 01, 2007 2:38:38 pm PDT #1476 of 5028
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

He saw Peter dead and then alive again after the glass shard was removed, so he knew that an object, whether a bullet or some other materiel, inserted at that point would render Peter dead.

but he didn't see Claire remove it, and he may not have made the connection between that particular spot and death. of course, Peter could have told him off screen.


Trudy Booth - Jun 01, 2007 3:18:45 pm PDT #1477 of 5028
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Do WE even know it was the particular spot? I thought the problem was "foreign body impedes regeneration".


Frankenbuddha - Jun 01, 2007 4:45:28 pm PDT #1478 of 5028
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

And seriously, if you've been denying your powers as much as Nathan has, are you really paying that much attention to "Oh, my brother should be able to fly now; why hasn't he?"

I mistyped fly as flay and had a weird BUFFY flashback. Hope Sylar never thinks of that pre-emptive move (since it doesn't affect the brain).


DXMachina - Jun 02, 2007 2:29:28 am PDT #1479 of 5028
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Do WE even know it was the particular spot? I thought the problem was "foreign body impedes regeneration".

I think it's foreign body in the brain halts regeneration. We know from Sylar's antics that the powers have to do with the way the brain works


Laura - Jun 02, 2007 5:20:59 am PDT #1480 of 5028
Our wings are not tired.

I think you're asking a bit much of Nathan. His brother is about to explode any second. He goes with what he knows, which is flying.

Exactly. I don't think Nathan was carefully examining all his options. More an instinctive response. It read very natural to me.

Although Sylar shouldn't survive since he was the big bad of season 1, he can be destroyed by the big bad of next season. That would be a satisfying plot for me. (I'll still miss his evil ways)