Xander: I still don't get why we came here to get info about a killer snot monster. Giles: Because it's a killer snot monster from outer space. I did not say that.

'Never Leave Me'


Heroes 1: We Could Be Heroes  

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Theodosia - May 22, 2007 11:32:55 am PDT #1352 of 5028
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I confess to having my mind go to a Sylar Vs. Michael Scott place. (But what IF Michael had Hiro-like powers, and Dwight was his sidekick?)


DXMachina - May 22, 2007 11:34:03 am PDT #1353 of 5028
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Gamma radiation is cosmic rays. Atomic bombs release neutron radiation.

Atomic bombs release EM radiation in the form of gamma rays, x-rays, UV, visible, and on down through the EM spectrum (in order of dangerousness, too). They also produce alpha particles (helium nuclei), beta particles (electrons), neutrons, as well as the elemental by-products of the fission reaction (i.e., fallout) that also release these same nasty things. The fallout is what lasts. The good thing is that if Peter is only releasing the EM equivalent of an atomic bomb, then there shouldn't be much fallout.


le nubian - May 22, 2007 11:34:32 am PDT #1354 of 5028
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

That's not pretty off, that's pretty office

heh.

Yes, he shot bullets back at Parkman. That was just fine, but why couldn't he have fought Niki/Jessica? I was looking for a kickass fight, is all. I wanted a telekinesis fight. Sylar shooting out ice and shit and then Peter coming back at him, until it turned to steam because he couldn't control Ted's power.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 22, 2007 11:35:47 am PDT #1355 of 5028
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Given his track record, I can see some cause of overconfidence. Unlike Peter, he actually seems to master his absorbed powers pretty fast, and the one he's had longest is probably the most versatile physical power we've seen yet.

Still, since he's encountered dozens of people with powers, perhaps ignoring the slim woman who's striding purposefully toward him after watching him rip that parking meter from the pavement was an unforgivable error.


Vortex - May 22, 2007 11:40:26 am PDT #1356 of 5028
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

That was just fine, but why couldn't he have fought Niki/Jessica?

I think that he was just distracted and then she clocked him.


esse - May 22, 2007 11:45:35 am PDT #1357 of 5028
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Here's the thing, though: If Nathan survives, his heroic sacrifice meant nothing (narratively speaking). Conversely, if Peter *doesn't* survive, then Nathan's heroic sacrifice, again, meant nothing, because it just meant that both Petrellis died instead of just one.

I'm wondering, now, if that scene with Mama Petrelli and Charles was just one big honking dollop of foreshadowing, in the sense of "You're betting on the wrong brother," and, of course, she was--but not in the way she was thinking.

While I thought the bit with Charles and Peter was lovely, just as dialogue, I really wanted to know if a) he had a power; b) Peter *had* that power from working with him, but didn't know until Charles told him; and c) that whatever that power was would Save The Day. Since none of those things actually happened, it was an entirely useless exchange that only gave me pretty pretty Simone, and was otherwise more of the narrative junk strewn around this finale.

I don't understand why Peter couldn't just fly himself the hell away, but whatever, I can handwave that for the bit of Nathan redemption in the end, as awkward as it was.

I kind of wish Nikki had beat Sylar's ass, and then Peter had finished him off. While I saw that the point was to bring Hiro back, it felt ill-timed and flat compared with the denoument I was hoping for.

I don't think he necessarily did. He could have just been punching him. Sylar didn't really have time to try to get up after Nikki knocked the crap out of him. Peter might have just been kickin' his ass old school.

I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be super-strength, because we've seen repeatedly that normal shows of strength just ends with him batting people away like flies.

I believe this is not the first roach we've seen in relation to Sylar, fwiw.

I think the cockroach was supposed to be a reference to Mohinder's introductory speech in the pilot, about how the only creature that's survived everything nature's put against it was the cockroach, and therefore it will rule the world someday. Or something.

Well, "Incest UST ignites human atom bomb on Heroes" sounds like a headline they want to avoid.

And yet sums up things so well.

Did anyone else think Mama Petrelli's power might be one of influence? It was more noticeable in this episode--she kept trying to convince people of things with imperative statements, and then put her hands on them, after which they would agree with her. At least, until Claire chose to dive out a window.

I loved the Micah/Molly bits. And I kind of have this idea about how Molly goes off with Mohinder, because it makes practical sense that she's stay with the one dude who can give her antibodies, but also because I really think the idea of Molly as Mohinder's apprentice would be adorable. And then she and Micah could email all the time, and talk about powers in code.

Oh! There was one more thing. Do you think perhaps, in the face of this Super Big Bad or whatever, that (assuming Peter is in fact dead and isn't going to pull a Superman and come flying back from space or whatever) Sylar might somehow migrate to good guy? In that, if there's someone stronger than him that he can't beat, he would be compelled to work to fight against him, and it would kind of be an evil-you-know situation for the other powers? That would be cool.


Trudy Booth - May 22, 2007 11:49:49 am PDT #1358 of 5028
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

My pet theory about the bullet-turning-back is that there was nothing super about them, they were just bullets being shot by a telepath.


Typo Boy - May 22, 2007 11:50:52 am PDT #1359 of 5028
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Molly as apprentice idea:

There is a bonus in that idea. As a bright little girl there is a good chance that she already has more practical common sense than Mohinder.


Polter-Cow - May 22, 2007 11:52:06 am PDT #1360 of 5028
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I was looking for a kickass fight, is all.

Oh, absolutely. Huge letdown on that front.

In that, if there's someone stronger than him that he can't beat, he would be compelled to work to fight against him, and it would kind of be an evil-you-know situation for the other powers? That would be cool.

You know, you say that, but I keep thinking of how I actually tend to get annoyed when that happens because the writers end up flipping them back and forth and it gets sloppy and irritating (see: Sloane, Spike, Scorpius, Slionel Sluthor).

My pet theory about the bullet-turning-back is that there was nothing super about them, they were just bullets being shot by a telepath.

...There's another theory?


esse - May 22, 2007 11:54:09 am PDT #1361 of 5028
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

You know, you say that, but I keep thinking of how I actually tend to get annoyed when that happens because the writers end up flipping them back and forth and it gets sloppy and irritating (see: Sloane, Spike, Scorpius, Slionel Sluthor).

Yes, but for me that's contingent only on Peter actually being dead. If he's not dead, and just wears black for all time (rowr) in mourning for his brother (a worthy death, that, if it gets Peter to fix his hair), I would rather see Peter become some kind of focal point for a powers-havin' superteam to go kick Sylar and Big Bad Numero Dos's asses.