'Lessons'
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
From the documentary thing The Spartans:
On the final morning, the Spartans followed their usual pre-battle rituals. They stripped naked and exercised. They oiled their bodies and combed out each other's long hair. They wrote their names on small sticks and tied them to their arms – an ancient form of 'dog-tags' that would allow their bodies to be identified later. Persian spies, observing these strange pre-battle rites, reported back to Xerxes, who thought them laughable.
Look what pregnancy has done to Salma.
Lordy.
In fact, there was no gay in Greece AT ALL EVER.
So all the local gay personal ads talking about greek v. french are based on an historical misunderstanding?
The Greeks just sat around talking about philosophy and democracy and stuff. And every once in a while they kicked Persian ass.
The Greeks just sat around talking about philosophy and democracy and stuff. And every once in a while they kicked Persian ass.
Well, there was that unspeakable perversion of the Greeks. But we can't speak of it.
Also, there was no gay in Sparta. Nope. No sir. Not at all. In fact, there was no gay in Greece AT ALL EVER.
Not in Frank Miller's Sparta, that's for damn sure. You can tell he's TOTALLY NOT GAY by the way all the TOTALLY NOT GAY Spartan warriors' leather miniskirts are showing off their TOTALLY NOT GAY oiled muscular legs.
Also, one of my favorite Onion Point-Counterpoints of all time.
Those aren't not-gay leather miniskirts, they're not-gay leather man-panties. EVEN MORE NOT GAY.
(no homo)
Perhaps Mr. Gilchrist needs to examine his personal motivations more closely before he is ready to offer a balanced assessment of Spartan sexual mores and conduct.
Heh.
In fact, there was no gay in Greece AT ALL EVER.
Some Island
ODYSSEUS: Hey, man, what up?
ACHILLES: Nothin' much [dodge, parry, stab]. Just teaching Patroclus [dodge, parry, dodge] to fight [stab].
ODYSSEUS: Lookin' good there, kid. What is he, your--
ACHILLES: Cousin. He's my cousin. Cousin. Totally my cousin. In conclusion: Cousin.
The whole "I am going into batle with no armor on! Also, I think leather underpants are awesome -- they breathe so well!!" issue is a big non-starter, for me.
They kind of got it reversed. I've read that the Spartans would often fight wearing leather breastplates (the bronze shield still being their major protection) and au naturel from the waist down. Pity Gerard Butler and David Wenham couldn't be convinced to push for historical accuracy.