Buffy: Dancing with you is way better than trying to hook up with some good-looking guy. Xander: I think I liked it more when you were kicking me in my puffy groin.

'Get It Done'


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Topic!Cindy - Mar 05, 2007 7:13:40 am PST #5087 of 10001
What is even happening?

I fail to get the distinction between absolute and relative too. The core of what he's saying makes sense (although I have no dog in that race), but some of the dressing confuses.
Yeah, the only absolute value Biffi listed that didn't make me scratch my head was the word "truth" and that's because Christ describes himself as the truth, so I can understand making that an equivalent -- that is the absolute is God; Christians believe Jesus is God incarnate; Jesus said, "I am the truth," therefore truth is absolute because God is truth.

I wish there was a transcript.


§ ita § - Mar 05, 2007 7:26:28 am PST #5088 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh my god. The cute! It kills. Someone's definitely related to Mommy.


Gudanov - Mar 05, 2007 7:31:38 am PST #5089 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I think I pretty much get what he is saying. The antichrist isn't necessarily a person but an attitude. If christians feel like being a good person and going to church every Sunday but don't dedicate themselves to Christ, then they are working against Christ in a sense.


Strega - Mar 05, 2007 7:34:35 am PST #5090 of 10001

Yeah, I think the absolute values vs. relative values has a specific meaning. I'm just guessing, but I think part of it is that things either are true or they are not. They are good or they are not. They are beautiful or they are not. (From his point of view, anyway.) "Respect for nature" is kind of murky as values go.

And presumably, since God is the ultimate expression of truth, beauty, love, goodness, etc., those things exist regardless of whether anything else does. They are eternal. The "relative values" he mentioned are about the material world.

...Or I could be totally wrong. But the distinction made sense to me that way, so I'm going with it.


flea - Mar 05, 2007 7:36:12 am PST #5091 of 10001
information libertarian

Dude, if I were Jennifer Garner and I were lurking here, I'd be rounding up some ninjas to protect my kid from an ita kidnapping-cutepocalypse.


tommyrot - Mar 05, 2007 7:37:44 am PST #5092 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Yeah, I think the absolute values vs. relative values has a specific meaning. I'm just guessing, but I think part of it is that things either are true or they are not. They are good or they are not. They are beautiful or they are not. (From his point of view, anyway.) "Respect for nature" is kind of murky as values go.

Well that makes sense. But since I'm Mr. anti-dualism, I find stuff like that annoying.


shrift - Mar 05, 2007 7:40:01 am PST #5093 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

The antichrist isn't necessarily a person but an attitude.

You rang?


§ ita § - Mar 05, 2007 7:41:56 am PST #5094 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I like to borrow kids and pinch their cheeks and indulge some fun naughtiness. But I give them back always, and more hurriedly if bodily fluids are concerned.

Violet does look like a cute baby to borrow, though. Maybe Gwen Stefani's boy can impregnate her and Shiloh, and then there could be supercuteness.


tommyrot - Mar 05, 2007 7:42:24 am PST #5095 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

The antichrist isn't necessarily a person but an attitude.

You rang?

Heh.

Is the Antichrist a vibe you can send out to people who annoy you? Does wearing leather make it easier to be Antichrist-y?


Gudanov - Mar 05, 2007 7:42:46 am PST #5096 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

You rang?

That's right your attitude is the beast, it can only be placated with 6 strips of bacon, 6 pages of porn, and 6 cigarettes.