I think admitting you were and are an alcoholic who considered suicide is an embarrassing personal admission, not a boast.

I see the discussion of himself as separate from his revelations and how he plans to handle certain celebrities from now on. I admit, the first time I heard about this, the alcoholism was redacted. So that colours it, although I'm trying to adjust--certainly the bulk of that twelve minutes was about himself.

I don't consider the admission embarassing myself. Difficult to make, perhaps, but not embarassing. This may be the result of coming to know people who say simply "I can't take that class. I have a meeting." And it's just that. They have a problem, they have meetings. End of drama.

But onto the celeb thing. I think it's incredibly weird for a celeb to suddenly realise other celebrities are people. You or I might think we'll never meet any, and can treat them as a separate species in our heads and in our speech (although I refuse to, adamantly). But he's one of them. That admission irritates me,

He made fun of his rehab roommate in his spiel. Britney's out of bounds because she's not sober yet? What makes them different from each other?

Most irritating of all, though, was his audience that laughed when he'd told them he wasn't making jokes. They just waited for space and then laughed. It took way too long for them to get the point.

As for K Fed being funny and Britney not...I'm still not sure why. I have no reason not to think he's a fucked up piece of work that is toxic (no pun intended) to himself and people around him. I just don't get the same air of pathos.

I kind of like this picture of the post-Mastiff destruction.

I kind of like this picture of the post-Mastiff destruction.

Someone needs to make one of those "I'm in ur hous, eatin ur hous" kinds of captions.

Weirdly aggravating exchange with a customer:

I have that exchange at least 3 or 4 times a day. I think that people don't have in their heads what they want, and are kinda waiting for us to guess, so they fill in that empty space where they should be relating what exactly in the hell it is they need with overly polite small talk.

It wastes my time.

" Hi Daisy how are you? Good. Good. Good. Y'all busy there today?" I mean it's this whole chit chat thing with someone who hasn't even told me his name yet, or said anything that would indicate a reason for the call or why he's being so familiar with me and OH MY GOD GET TO THE FUCKING POINT ALREADY!

I don't consider the admission embarassing myself. Difficult to make, perhaps, but not embarassing. This may be the result of coming to know people who say simply "I can't take that class. I have a meeting." And it's just that. They have a problem, they have meetings. End of drama.

Well, it's not true for everyone, and your perception is biased when you really can't know for sure who is too embarrassed to talk about it. I know I failed to mention that my dad was in rehab last year to everyone, with the exception of Bob, and we didn't talk about it either. It really had nothing to do with drama.

He made fun of his rehab roommate in his spiel. Britney's out of bounds because she's not sober yet? What makes them different from each other?

The roommate was presumably anonymous. I don't think it's about making fun of alcoholism; I think his problem is shaming people who are weakened by factors beyond their immediate control, like alcoholism.

My mom said she could always tell when she had a salesman doing some cold-calling on the phone at work because they would invariably call her "Kathy." Her name is "Kathleen" or "Kay," and she was never called "Kathy" (that's me!). So, the salesman would always start off the call with a really ticked off nurse trying to do her job and ready to hang up on him just because he was presuming to know her name.

Timelies all!

Happy Birthday Laura!

I am home because someone spilled phenol in the lab, fairly close to my desk. He wiped up the spill, but the fumes remain. Safety and Fire Department people came by and claimed to have cleaned it up, but still: fumes. It was making my headache worse, so I took off.

" Hi Daisy how are you? Good. Good. Good. Y'all busy there today?" I mean it's this whole chit chat thing with someone who hasn't even told me his name yet, or said anything that would indicate a reason for the call or why he's being so familiar with me and OH MY GOD GET TO THE FUCKING POINT ALREADY!"

2 more aggravating things:

1) The person who just will NOT SHUT UP while you're trying to help them.

"Can you check on this PO for me?"

"Certainly, just a moment."

"Because I put it in yesterday."

"Uh-huh."

"I just wanted to make sure you got it."

"Okay, I'm just..."

"I really like your products..."

LISTEN, lady, I seriously DO NOT CARE. I want to answer your question and get you the FUCK off my phone. SHUT UP while I do that, kay?

2) "(Company Name), this Joe, how can I help you?"

"Hi. This is Marcia."

"Hi Marcia."

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"Can I help you with something, Marcia?"

Like I'm supposed to know who the fuck "Marcia" is or something. "Oh, hi Marcia, I received your psychic plea for help through the aether and I'm not only looking up your PO right now, but I'm also arranging for you to finally experience a satisfying orgasm with your husband. Be just a sec."

your perception is biased when you really can't know for sure who is too embarrassed to talk about it

From what Connie says, it's not embarassing for him. From his delivery it didn't seem so to me. He seemed quite matter of fact, not as if he had to muster his bravery, or god forbid, was having an Oprah moment.

The roommate was presumably anonymous. I don't think it's about making fun of alcoholism; I think his problem is shaming people who are weakened by factors beyond their immediate control, like alcoholism.

Fair point. I didn't think that it was about making fun of alcholism--but the divide that you're harshing on people where *I* actually know who the person is (and they know millions of people know) is a clear divide.

Him not thinking ahead to meeting the people he gets laughs off of is just plain weird. It's not even like you should need to think ahead to meeting them. It's not about meeting them. It's about them existing and having feelings that may be affected by your work.

I do that thing on the phone. Sorry! But it's because I have massive, massive phone fear and it's enough that I'm on the phone talking to you and give me credit for trying to make social niceties with you because all I really want to do is blurt out what I need and have you do it! Ahem. Yes, you're still fine. I just have spastic responses, because I'm not typically the one who says first, how are you? Usually I'm the one that says, "Fine, and you?" Unless I'm on the phone, calling you.

Hee. I was aiming for funny and self-deprecating, and that came out all defensive and retaliatory, and I don't mean it that way!

I dunno about the celeb thing. IME, the celebs I know don't roll high enough to know the other celebs in other fields and to treat them all like other humans. They're not immune to the machine, they're just caught up in it in a higher gear than we are.