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Miracleman - Feb 16, 2007 11:58:47 am PST #1538 of 10001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I think I'd have to see some side-by-side transcripts of Leary v. Hicks. I can see how they would have similar *subjects*, and similar takes on those subjects, but...

...if Leary did plagiarize Hicks I will wax sore wroth because Leary has always cracked my shit up and I thought he was brilliant.


Aims - Feb 16, 2007 12:01:14 pm PST #1539 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Did Leary write for Hicks? Huh. Didn't know that.

But you see what I mean.

Yeah, I do.

Why should Leary use the material and never give credit? Why does Mencia lie about using other people's material?

They shouldn't.

Let me retcon a bit: I don't like that they allegedly used material from other sources, but it doesn't make me enjoy them any less.


tommyrot - Feb 16, 2007 12:02:11 pm PST #1540 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Why am I so tired? Why does my brain like to shut down when I still have an hour of work to go?

Anyway, I read this headline: NASA Replaces Charged Astronaut for Next Shuttle Mission

And I read "charged" as "charred" and immediately thought about about the astronauts in the Columbia and Apollo 1 disasters....


bon bon - Feb 16, 2007 12:03:54 pm PST #1541 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Chris Rock has a team of writers. It makes me respect him a little bit less than Dave Chappelle, but it's not like he's making it harder for other comedians to earn a living. I would say Leary made it harder for Hicks to be big.

Also, I don't really have a moral stand on whether you get your material written by someone else, it's just such a part of standup that it's disappointing if you don't write your own.


DavidS - Feb 16, 2007 12:05:59 pm PST #1542 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think I'd have to see some side-by-side transcripts of Leary v. Hicks.

Well, I did cite the Jim Fix joke up thread, which was apparently a straight-up theft. I think there's some disgruntlement in the comedy community because Leary stole much of the "look and feel" of Hicks act. But that's far more nebulous. That's just in the slippery realm of absorbing your influences. Every creator goes through something like that (with rare exceptions), but that's different than outright plagiarism. If the Beatles cover Buddy Holly or Little Richard then everybody knows that (a) the Beatles didn't write that song and (b) the original songwriter still gets royalties.

It takes a lot of work to craft an act or a joke. The timing and phrasing are crucial. Any half decent comedian could do an old Cosby album on stage and kill, because the jokes are so well designed.

So, yeah. I'd like to see more side-by-side comparisons.


erikaj - Feb 16, 2007 12:06:35 pm PST #1543 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

I've been totally aping Cintra Wilson for years. But I'm nothing so even Cintra wouldn't care. I doubt that anything I write is ever "Like whoa...stone tablet" type original. But, to my knowledge I never took anything.


DavidS - Feb 16, 2007 12:07:56 pm PST #1544 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I've been totally aping Cintra Wilson for years.

Again, being influenced by somebody's style isn't the same thing as outright theft.


Allyson - Feb 16, 2007 12:10:19 pm PST #1545 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I want someone to be influenced by MY style!


Daisy Jane - Feb 16, 2007 12:10:36 pm PST #1546 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

So it's clear Eddie Izzard is the one true comedian.

Unless of course there's some funny, Un-USian, transvestite somewhere watching HBO and going "Executive Transvestite? Hey, wait a minute...."


bon bon - Feb 16, 2007 12:13:37 pm PST #1547 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

So it's clear Eddie Izzard is the one true comedian.

I guess now that Mitch Hedberg is dead...that guy had a killer style, and his jokes are still funny written down. That is ridiculously rare. He was the best standup of his generation. God, what a loss.