Joyce: You don't think it's too obvious? I think I look like I have a cat on my head. Buffy: But a very well groomed cat. Joyce: Well that's a comfort.

'Bring On The Night'


Natter Five-O: Book 'Em, Danno.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Strega - Feb 16, 2007 10:58:16 am PST #1503 of 10001

My car is FREE! I had to carve out the ice from all 4 tires. Broke an ice scraper in the process. Then I moved the car to a part of the lot they'd cleared out. Apparently tomorrow they're bringing in a backhoe to clear out as much of the ice as they can.

I also saw a guy who was clearing the ice from the sidewalk with a pickaxe.

Denis Leary's act was taken wholesale from Bill Hicks, and that's why comics hate him.
I thought this was common knowledge. Because, yeah. I liked Leary until I heard some Hicks albums.


Jessica - Feb 16, 2007 10:59:39 am PST #1504 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Ben & Jerry's official Colbert page


Frankenbuddha - Feb 16, 2007 11:01:45 am PST #1505 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Is that a stab at human nature, or comedian nature?

Human nature, definitely. Though I do think there's a connection between the the ego-driven nature of show business in general in conjunction with the failure to success ratio, and a level of bitterness, jealousy etc. that's above the mean. If that makes sense, which it may not since it's late in the day on a Friday.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 16, 2007 11:02:47 am PST #1506 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Ben & Jerry's official Colbert page

I saw that in the Globe yesterday. It gives me the happies.


Strega - Feb 16, 2007 11:04:22 am PST #1507 of 10001

Hicks and Leary had been friends. Hicks thought he'd been ripped off, too, before he died; this isn't a recent thing that only started when Leary got famous.

A reporter once asked Hicks why he'd stopped smoking. His reply: "I wanted to see if Denis Leary would."


Frankenbuddha - Feb 16, 2007 11:07:19 am PST #1508 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Hicks thought he'd been ripped off, too, before he died

This I hadn't heard before. Oh well, that's not cool. Hard to dismiss when it comes from the source.


§ ita § - Feb 16, 2007 11:08:13 am PST #1509 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I do think there's a connection between the the ego-driven nature of show business in general in conjunction with the failure to success ratio, and a level of bitterness, jealousy etc. that's above the mean.

How do you see it manifesting in other branches of show business?

Man, I obviously haven't seen enough Leary performance.


bon bon - Feb 16, 2007 11:10:14 am PST #1510 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Given Leary's high profile, it wouldn't suprise me that some of his fellow comics are finding anything they can throw at him that doesn't smack of sour grapes.

The last person I heard this from was a posting on a message board by Brian Stack, who is a super nice guy and currently a writer for Conan. I doubt this characterization of his motives. This is what he wrote:

Every stand-up I've ever met that knows Joe Rogan has described him as an asshole, but if Mencia is a thief, I'm glad Rogan's going after him. It wouldn't surprise me one bit to find out that Mencia steals material.

I was pretty amazed when I saw some transcripts of how incredibly similar a lot of Dennis Leary's old routines were to Bill Hicks' stuff. Some of it was virtually word-for-word.

Now, I haven't seen the transcript, but if Stack says he saw it, they exist. That guy is solid.


DavidS - Feb 16, 2007 11:12:26 am PST #1511 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

A reporter once asked Hicks why he'd stopped smoking. His reply: "I wanted to see if Denis Leary would."

Great line.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 16, 2007 11:14:09 am PST #1512 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

How do you see it manifesting in other branches of show business?

I figure if I can glean this kind of thing from officially sanctioned interviews of actors, musicians, directors, etc., where you've got people slagging off other people above and below them in the celebrity food chain on the record, it's got to be a whole lot worse via the unofficial channels.