Funny. I responded in the first place because I was feeling poked by you.

(NOTE: I only took Paul's statement because of what it said, not because I'm only addressing Paul)

We need to refrain from poking each other, even if we think we're just poking back at someone who poked us. If you have to call the person on poking, fine. Let's not get petty with each other.

By the way, this all is exactly why so many folks are starting to fall on the hardline with bannings, suspensions, or warnings, even for petty offenses. It's because when we don't, when we dissect the petty events ad nauseam, we start to canibalize ourselves.

Let's please cut the shit.

While there's still time, I say Sartre, with an eye toward Tim.

(and those of you who think it's going to be a long time until Bloody Tim are beautiful, crazy, cockeyed optimists)

Hey, everyone? Chill.

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But if msbelle and Jesse believe their points, and you come to believe yours, what's the problem? If you don't believe yours, well, it seems like an odd case of peer pressure -- do we really see that a) as having happened, and b) a sufficient risk to proactively create procedures to avoid?

I think it's the "come to believe" that's the problem. And, yes, I do believe it happened here. And I do still believe it's worth keeping complaints out of Bureaucracy to keep it from happening again -- which I don't see as "proactively creating procedures" so much as setting one rule. But I'll wait and see if msbelle's plan works before kicking up a fuss about this point again.

Also, msbelle is my hero.

OMG! really? That's honest make me real surprised, I value your opinion lots stuff.

Thanks friend.

So it's Like Sarte, Only Longer, then?

I'm still confused by the idea that multiple agreeing posts are only acceptable if they're of the yay! variety, and that I'm only allowed to convince you things are better than you'd thought, otherwise it's a "pile-on", and it should be discouraged.

Frankly, when I come in and express dissent (or agreement), whether I'm the first (rarely) or the fifteenth (usually), I reserve the right to stand by my word. Also, to stand by the changing of my mind. I'm not twelve, I'm not peer pressure's bitch.

I'd kinda assumed that was true for the majority here too.

Just curious, is Bureaucracy I [closed] going to remain on the right side with Bureaucracy II? We haven't had a II on the side yet.

So it's Like Sarte, Only Longer, then?

Looks like it. I've got it set up and ready to go.

Frankly, when I come in and express dissent (or agreement), whether I'm the first (rarely) or the fifteenth (usually), I reserve the right to stand by my word. Also, to stand by the changing of my mind. I'm not twelve, I'm not peer pressure's bitch.

I'd kinda assumed that was true for the majority here too.

I feel the same way (even though given the context, I'm now all self-conscious about saying I feel the same way).

Yes, 'only longer' is my favorite.