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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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Michele T. - Apr 14, 2003 1:18:25 pm PDT #9869 of 10001
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Can we define pile-ons? Is it more than a number of people agreeing about something?

Not wanting to halt the flow of Miss Moveitalongpants's work, but:

It's kind of like the "I'm wearing a rubber glove on my head right now!" effect Fay has already outlined -- look at how quickly her hypothetical conversation goes from "uh, this is my weirdness" to "people who don't like this are the real freaks!"

I post that ita bugs me sometimes. Msbelle posts that ita bugs her too, and she thinks ita's stinky. Jesse says, yeah, ita stinks! and her momma dresses her funny! I come back and say, yeah, I agree with BOTH of you, and what's more, I'm gonna kick ita's ass!

That's a pile-on. I never ever would have posted that I would kick ita's ass to start with -- I was just saying that sometimes, she rubs me the wrong way sometimes. But the other people, intentionally or no, are egging me on and raising the stakes. Does that help?


Jesse - Apr 14, 2003 1:19:17 pm PDT #9870 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I am personally horrrified by Allyson's posts to Zoe, even more so because she was pretending to be nice. Allyson later admitted that her intention was to chase Zoe off. That's not acceptable to me.

The thing that's especially fascinating to me about this (and I'm mostly using your post as a placeholder, smonster), is the subsequent conversation in here about how maybe she does have mental problems that make her unable to interact like a normal person -- and that was OK?


Jessica - Apr 14, 2003 1:21:14 pm PDT #9871 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I was wondering the same thing, Jesse.


bitterchick - Apr 14, 2003 1:21:16 pm PDT #9872 of 10001

But the other people, intentionally or no, are egging me on and raising the stakes.

This is a valid point. Which is why, maybe, there needs to be a cooling off period. Like, someone says, "Okay this post really offended me and I want to discuss it." And either we talk about it right then and then take a break. Or we take a break and then talk about it. Maybe there needs to be a 24 hour moratorium on discussion before taking action. Give people a chance to cool down.


§ ita § - Apr 14, 2003 1:22:05 pm PDT #9873 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I post that ita bugs me sometimes. Msbelle posts that ita bugs her too, and she thinks ita's stinky. Jesse says, yeah, ita stinks! and her momma dresses her funny! I come back and say, yeah, I agree with BOTH of you, and what's more, I'm gonna kick ita's ass!

But if msbelle and Jesse believe their points, and you come to believe yours, what's the problem? If you don't believe yours, well, it seems like an odd case of peer pressure -- do we really see that a) as having happened, and b) a sufficient risk to proactively create procedures to avoid?


Kat - Apr 14, 2003 1:22:08 pm PDT #9874 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

The thing that's especially fascinating to me about this (and I'm mostly using your post as a placeholder, smonster), is the subsequent conversation in here about how maybe she does have mental problems that make her unable to interact like a normal person -- and that was OK?

No. That was decidely Not Okay either. Honestly, if you are defending me and you are saying I deserve a special break because I Am SPECIAL. Grr..... so insulting. Thanks for the defense, but not in that way.


Allyson - Apr 14, 2003 1:23:56 pm PDT #9875 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Well, to be fair, I was willfully malicious, and I think the other folks were genuinely concerned, which I do think is different.


§ ita § - Apr 14, 2003 1:24:54 pm PDT #9876 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

if you are defending me and you are saying I deserve a special break because I Am SPECIAL

Also, irrelevant. I don't care if you're peeing on my shoe because you're not potty trained, or because you're a sick twitch, I just want the urination to stop.

And since I'm not qualified to potty train, it's best you stop standing anywhere near me.


msbelle - Apr 14, 2003 1:27:38 pm PDT #9877 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Do we having voting procedures and whatnot? YES! good.

I made a proposal for a vote.

It got seconded 6 times.

What now?


Jessica - Apr 14, 2003 1:29:15 pm PDT #9878 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Someone should open Light Bulbs.