Kat, I'm glad you're back.

Does anyone happen to have the significant discussions about moderation, administration, Stompy Feet, and the differences among the lot bookmarked?

LJ, do you have no problems with the idea of anonymous complaints against you?

Lyra Jane, I totally get what you are saying. I just disagree. Someone's gotta be pretty irritating for me to complain, and given what happened here, I don't know that I'd be eager to do it again. So it's a break on running people out of town, at the very least.

I just don't like anonymous and closed-door complaints. I would complain about decisions made under such cloaked circumstances.

Riffing off ita's question...I'd TOTALLY object to anonymous complaints about me. My first question would be, "Who said it?" Not to get them, but because I need to know.

In Willow's words (paraphrased) a veiled threat is no one's friend.

Some of us would rather not get involved in the inevitable flame war filing an official complaint about such a poster would lead to.

Ah. But here, a flame war would, I'm pretty sure, lead to warning/suspension more quickly than anything else. I mean, a warning should come pretty quickly, which would either end the flaming, or lead right to a suspension. We Don't Do That Here.

So...THAT is acceptable behavior?

Saw it too. Think it's unacceptable behavior. And I'm feeling too beaten down and upset to bring it up. So thank you.

Thank YOU for agreeing with me. That statement really pisses me off. She's been e-mailed by more than one person informing her of this discussion, and she hasn't chosen to participate.

She has not complied at all with people's requests to modify her posting style.

And now she insults the community as a whole.

And we're supposed to just tolerate that??

I'm appalled.

Ah. But here, a flame war would, I'm pretty sure, lead to warning/suspension more quickly than anything else. I mean, a warning should come pretty quickly, which would either end the flaming, or lead right to a suspension. We Don't Do That Here.

What Jesse Said.

I understand that confronting a really belligerent troll on their behavior might be headache-inducing, but if it does result in flame-throwing, well, they'll be gone that much faster.

And I wouldn't want people complaining anonymously about me. I'd want to know who was hurt, and why.

but I did pretty much leave a forum recently because I bitched at/about someone and she decided I was The Biggest Idiot in the World

I think we all were concerned that you were being abused here, because we would not allow that to happen because we know you are clearly not tBIitW

Also, feel strongly that the discussion belongs open in public in the thread. Some of us may be shy about coming forward with a complaint, but if it is that bad some one will come forward.

Onwards with a system.

I read what Steph linked to and I agree with her.

Steph just said what my brain was trying to churn out.

We've bent over backwards to be give Zoe the benefit of the doubt. She has done nothing to reciprocate that.

Can't speak for Lyra Jane, but if a request to a stompy is made backchannel, I would expect the poster to have already tried to address the problem in-thread and failed.

I think collecting the X requests backchannel makes it look less like Bureaucracy is a place to count complaints and keep traffic down. Once the X number of requests is reached, discussion can open up to the entire community. Basically, it seems to be a way to keep kvetching focused on things that merit attention, rather than every time one poster has a problem with another, making everyone feel the need to discuss what may be a minor problem that can be worked out by individuals.

Would it help if any emails were posted at the start of the discussion period after X requests had been reached? I'm not interested in a Star Chamber, just in not tiring everyone out by having 400 posts on an issue that turns out to have really only deeply concerned 2 people.