Take jobs as they come -- and we'll never be under the heel of nobody ever again. No matter how long the arm of the Alliance might get, we'll just get ourselves a little further.

Mal ,'Out Of Gas'


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amyth - Apr 13, 2003 8:15:31 pm PDT #9622 of 10001
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

how nice Wesley would look wearing just a sock

Of course, I picture him wearing this Red Hot Chili Peppers style, instead of on his foot.

Any further musings on Wes, his sock and its placement I'll bring up in the Angel thread if they come to me. So that this board may have its peace for a few moments, at least.


P.M. Marc - Apr 13, 2003 8:23:25 pm PDT #9623 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Paul, before you bring up that hornet's nest, you should understand that Allyson's reaction was mild compared to the blinding fury that happened to settle on some of us queers when shit about gay sex being icky came up with us Standing Right There.

What Allyson managed to do was defuse some of us before we went completely, totally, and insanely postal.

Consider it the lesser of evils, because you don't even want to know some of the responses to that post that went through my head.


Gandalfe - Apr 13, 2003 8:26:48 pm PDT #9624 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Standing Right There

Any idea where/when that post was? Cuz I'd be interested in having a frame of reference. I'll look it up, just point me in the right direction.

Although quite possibly I should keep my big mouth shut.


askye - Apr 13, 2003 8:30:01 pm PDT #9625 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

It was early on in Angel 2 I think. I would say Threadsuck Angel 2 and search under Zoe's name but that could be tedious.


Gandalfe - Apr 13, 2003 8:31:57 pm PDT #9626 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

First 1000 posts, you think?


Lyra Jane - Apr 13, 2003 8:32:32 pm PDT #9627 of 10001
Up with the sun

It was in Angel while the show was on hiatus. Maybe mid-Feb.?

I'd REALLY rather not drag this one out again. Allyson's post bothered me a lot more than Zoe's, as cruelty bothers me more than stupidity -- but I was reading a few hours later and without the perspective of being gay/bi, so maybe I can't really understand this one.


Hil R. - Apr 13, 2003 8:36:16 pm PDT #9628 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

The particular conversation starts around connie neil "Angel 2: No Time for Losers" Feb 19, 2003 1:20:20 pm EST, but you might want to go back a little further for the grammar/spelling debate that already had people edgy, starting around Zoe Finch "Angel 2: No Time for Losers" Feb 19, 2003 8:30:21 am EST.

edit: and then continues at Allyson "Angel 2: No Time for Losers" Feb 19, 2003 7:26:54 pm EST.

(And, sorry if this is dragging up old stuff again, but I figure it's better to have actual posts to refer to than just summaries of 1000-post discussions.)


Elena - Apr 13, 2003 8:36:32 pm PDT #9629 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.

Let's also keep in mind that Allyson apologised (to offended other Buffistas, though self-admittedly not to Zoe) for that post.


Lyra Jane - Apr 13, 2003 8:46:11 pm PDT #9630 of 10001
Up with the sun

Okay, I reread, and a)I was remembering Allyson's comments as worse than they were and b)I was around during that conversation, so I'm mistaken about reading it later.

This is why I should not comment on things that happened more than five minutes ago without finding the original posts.


Consuela - Apr 13, 2003 8:50:06 pm PDT #9631 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Allyson was called on the post and apologized for it. Nobody here is saying Allyson was right to do it (even if some readers understood and agreed with her reason for doing it), and it clearly didn't resolve the situation anyway.

There's no reason to bring it up again, Paul.