Again, the phrase isn't to calm. It's to register dissent and move on.
People don't want to just scroll by. This is an alternative.
Yes, it's terribly simple. The good guys are always stalwart and true, the bad guys are easily distinguished by their pointy horns or black hats, and, uh, we always defeat them and save the day. No one ever dies, and everybody lives happily ever after.
Giles ,'Conversations with Dead People'
Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
Trudy Booth - Apr 12, 2003 3:05:19 pm PDT #9451 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Fay - Apr 12, 2003 3:05:32 pm PDT #9452 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
We're really going to have to agree to disagree on this one, Trudy, because I feel very strongly against this, either in terms of me applying it to other people or in terms of having it applied to me.
Nutty - Apr 12, 2003 3:05:49 pm PDT #9453 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Unified behavior? Among the Buffistas? I don't think you'll ever get that.
I can sort of see where you're coming from, Trudy -- although I can also see the opposition -- but I don't think it's practicable. Even when we all know and like and want to follow the rules, sometimes something just pops out (like a spoiler or an insult). Imagine how much harder it would be, trying to maintain the Official Calm Down You Loony Mantra List, who's on it, when we should use it, keeping everyone informed not to respond to the inflammatory posts of So-and-so...
I can't see it even working in terms of what would be posted, much less in terms of being effective on the user we're annoyed with.
Burrell - Apr 12, 2003 3:06:52 pm PDT #9454 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
While I agree with Trudy that the tone of the responses to Zoe has gotten out of hand, I think her solution is inappropriate. I think that multiple generic & identical comments is not only frustrating for the target of said posts, it also fails to identify the *specific* point of frustration for the senders.
It's more like tourretts
What is "it," pray tell? This presumed unnamed disorder? How can we possibly know what it presents as when we have no idea what it is, or if it even exists? Can we please stop trying to diagnose the woman?
P.M. Marc - Apr 12, 2003 3:07:05 pm PDT #9455 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Anyhow, we're pretty much just giving her what she wants, so can we warn her and have done with it? She knows the thread is here. She's probably sickly pleased at the damage done.
At this point, I don't care what her motivation is, if it's boredom or mental illness or what.
I have no more slack to cut.
§ ita § - Apr 12, 2003 3:07:18 pm PDT #9456 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Again, the phrase isn't to calm. It's to register dissent and move on.
What about the proposition that it will inflame?
Trudy Booth - Apr 12, 2003 3:07:30 pm PDT #9457 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Alright, the dog has grown opposable thumbs and hooked on her own leash. The sun is out, I have to leave for the theater in 45 minutes, and the thumbs look weird. I gotta go.
::MWAH::
Fay - Apr 12, 2003 3:08:28 pm PDT #9458 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
Yes Fay, my paragraph is very wordy! I'm better at editing other's words than my own.
Oh, it was a nice paragraph! I liked it. I just think that in this instance it's pitched all wrong, because communication is the crux of the problem. Big words and complex sentences wouldn't help, imho.
§ ita § - Apr 12, 2003 3:10:00 pm PDT #9459 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I have never seen Nutty's ass, so I have no opinion on it. But what she pulled out of it? Seems fair, reasonable, all those things.
Scrappyat work - Apr 12, 2003 3:10:16 pm PDT #9460 of 10001
Trudy--I have also been made uncomfortable by the bellicose tone some posters have taken towards Zoe. I have to admit the "brain-damage" comment by Allyson affected me like a blow and I had to leave the thread to recover. But Allyson aplogized when called on it. I spent almost an hour composing a message to Zoe about why her posts might make people become angered and how she might change her style a bit to avoid that--since I saw this coming a couple of weeks ago. She never responded. I am not sure the comfort of the rest of us is of interest to her--although I hope I am misjudging her.
I think we can ask Buffistas to make a conscious choice try to react to rudeness with calm--rather than institutionalize that into a catch-phrase--and that might work better.