What Laura mentions is what I had in mind by bridging the gap. Explain the problem. Put the onus on the problematic poster, but don't give it any teeth. In other words, treat the poster as a member of the community, because the poster doesn't seem to leave the community at any time in the near future.
Zoe: Don't think it's a good spot, sir. She still has the advantage over us. Mal: Everyone always does. That's what makes us special.
'Serenity'
Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
Cindy - Apr 12, 2003 2:40:28 pm PDT #9413 of 10001
Nobody
§ ita § - Apr 12, 2003 2:41:40 pm PDT #9414 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Some sort of peaceful protest which addresses the situation without conflagrating it could be of use to us.
From my perspective, as I noted upthread, 23 people parrotting a code word at me is not non-conflagrating. Being given a chance (should I care to take it) to explain myself would antagonise me less.
Fay - Apr 12, 2003 2:42:07 pm PDT #9415 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
Zoe, a number of members of this community are frustrated with your style of posting and it is causing a problem we feel needs to be addressed. The objectionable posts have included posts which appear to have no connection to topics being discussed and offensive remarks. Exchanges involving members questioning the logic of your posts have escalated to rudeness which is upsetting to most of the community. In the spirit of maintaining a harmonious community we request you carefully examine your posts and make every effort to explain your points without being rude to other members.
I'm going to suggest that any official intervention be worded an awful lot more simply and clearly. Short sentences. Simple words. As little opportunity as possible for confusion or misunderstanding. More down to earth.
§ ita § - Apr 12, 2003 2:42:20 pm PDT #9416 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Explain the problem.
Yes. That. Dialogue. I'm for gap-bridging.
arby - Apr 12, 2003 2:42:28 pm PDT #9417 of 10001
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)
I like Laura's wording. Am not sure I understand Nutty's 4 second rule, but I haven't been following the voting discussions.
Trudy Booth - Apr 12, 2003 2:43:27 pm PDT #9418 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Alright, it's the first beautiful day in yonks and my dog is staring at me like I'm insane. We're going for a walk.
Just one last plea that we find a means of peaceful protest. If we act deliberately we can have a sit-in instead of a pile-on.
Typo Boy - Apr 12, 2003 2:43:28 pm PDT #9419 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Pardon me Trudy, but are you proposing that if any five people agree then that is enough to give someone an official warning? That is one proposer and four seconds gives the warning that they have done something wrong and must change their ways?
Scrappyat work - Apr 12, 2003 2:43:50 pm PDT #9420 of 10001
Trudy--I lreally like the idea of not meeting rudeness with more rudeness, but if it were me and I got a whole bunch of posts all saying the same thing, I would find that way more monolithic and off-putting then dealing with many folks individual opinions--even if one or twoof those folks was kinda snippy or unkind.
Nutty - Apr 12, 2003 2:44:25 pm PDT #9421 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Yeah, not to speak for Kate, but I think she probably didn't know about the Bureaucracy discussion when she posted in Unamerican.
Trudy, my thinking on your proposal is that I tried that. I mean, I aws trying it only by myself, but I made a resolution the time before last that we were on WX, that I would start practicing some of that magnificent Buffista splendor I'd been joking about. And every time I saw something that Zoe said that struck me as rude, I posted, without arguing with her actual content, something like "I think that was rude. Please watch the tone of your posts." I think I even signed one "KGB of Nice".
That was something like six weeks ago. She never responded, and has not gotten any more careful in how she expresses herself. When I specifically asked her for an apology on behalf of someone about whom she said something rude, she just ignored what I'd said. I'm tired of trying as an individual and having no success.
Trudy Booth - Apr 12, 2003 2:45:51 pm PDT #9422 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
From my perspective, as I noted upthread, 23 people parrotting a code word at me is not non-conflagrating.
It wouldn't be a code word. It would be agreed upon short hand and avoid personal attacks.
are you proposing that if any five people agree then that is enough to give someone an official warning?
Lord no! I'm proposing that we respond to obnoxious behaivor in a calm non-aggressive fashion.