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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
Trudy Booth - Apr 12, 2003 1:41:00 am PDT #9331 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
arby - Apr 12, 2003 1:41:20 am PDT #9332 of 10001
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)
I'm just disagreeing with you and saying that actually doing it is going too far.
So if enough people come in here and repeatedly request it, would it be OK to warn her? Because I think more people would have done it if they weren't afraid of the repercussions (for them).
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Trudy Booth - Apr 12, 2003 1:44:06 am PDT #9333 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I'm saying that I don't agree with a "warning". That I think it is going too far. That it sets a tone that I don't like.
A million people may come in and agree with me. Who knows?
arby - Apr 12, 2003 1:45:51 am PDT #9334 of 10001
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)
This is exactly why we need to make some kind of rule about how warnings get initiated. Because not everyone agrees that she should be warned, and not having a procedure lets things get ugly.
(come back Kat!)
(I really have to go to sleep.)
Trudy Booth - Apr 12, 2003 1:47:33 am PDT #9335 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I wasn't going for ugly and I don't know how that happened. I apologize.
Elena - Apr 12, 2003 1:48:00 am PDT #9336 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.
She has been asked to think about her posts repeatedly, unofficially, and politely. And that hasn't changed a thing. The next step is an official warning - or notice if the term bothers you.
And, respectfully, hauling Big Brother into the conversation is one of the ways to make a polite discussion not so very polite any more.
arby - Apr 12, 2003 1:50:55 am PDT #9337 of 10001
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)
{Trudy}
I'll be back tomorrow after a modicum of rest.
Trudy Booth - Apr 12, 2003 1:51:01 am PDT #9338 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
"Orwellian" was too strong a word.
But "nitpicky" is too weak a word. I really feel like there should be something inbetween.
Elena - Apr 12, 2003 1:54:03 am PDT #9339 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.
Kat, I really think it would have been better to have left your posts - context is everything in these conversations, after all.
Trudy, maybe there is a strong-yet-not-inflammatory word for what you want to express. What, exactly, is it that you think we're trying to do that is objectionable? (serious question) Because I think that we're trying to warn someone that their behaviour is upsetting, objectionable, and against the stated standards of this community.
Trudy Booth - Apr 12, 2003 2:14:27 am PDT #9340 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
OK, some people are saying "I think Zoe should get a warning because of A, B, C".
I'm saying "I think it would be bad because of X, Y, Z."
I thought this was a discussion as to whether she should get one or not. I discussed.
Here is my little position summary:
Point I
I think the response to Zoe's incindiary posts have, cumulatively, been over-reactions. Some individual posts have been downright mean. I think this is rotten for oldies to do to newbies even if the newbies were asking for it.
Point II
If Zoe is a troll a warning won't do any good but rather will be giving her what she wants. OTOH, if Zoe has some sort of delay an official warning won't do any good as the constant unofficial ones have not anyway.
Point III
I think the situation with Mieskie who was, (IMHO) far more deliberately obnoxious and hurtful than Zoe has ever been, went too far too fast. I think it damaged the board and our sense of community. I would like to be careful not to act in haste and do the same thing again.