Zoe: Is there any way I'm gonna get out of this with honor and dignity? Wash: You're pretty much down to ritual suicide, lambie-toes.

'War Stories'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


arby - Apr 12, 2003 12:28:57 am PDT #9271 of 10001
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)

I felt uncomfortable, not because it doesn't happen often, but because I was afraid that my request for an enforement of etiquette would be seen as a breach of etiquette.

That is a problem.

Exactly - people shouldn't have to ask (or be afraid to ask) for the rules to be enforced. The rules should be self-enforcing. Of course that means endless discussion and voting, Buffista-style. Not that there's anything wrong with that. (See thread title.)

[ETA:

I think the disconnect I'm seeing is that people don't seem to consider their responses to Zoe as rude. I'm afraid I feel differently.

Actually, I think people know their responses to her are rude - they are tired of asking nicely and getting a rude response.]

Xpost with Elena! A first! [/natter]


Elena - Apr 12, 2003 12:29:07 am PDT #9272 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.

But when it's something truly hateful or offensive? How do you let that go by? Really, I want to know. Because if I'd been privy to some of the posts real-time, I'd have said something. And I'm pretty damn genial and tolerant.

And if people are rude to her it's after a great deal of tongue biting.


Kat - Apr 12, 2003 12:29:44 am PDT #9273 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

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'"No." Kat shook her head, handing im a marshmallow and willow stick. 'History's not fair. It's anything but.'" - More Kathleen Dexter


Jon B. - Apr 12, 2003 12:30:29 am PDT #9274 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Undoubtedly I've pissed off Jon (and others) with my anti-preferential voting rant.

For the record -- naaaah. I was annoyed only insomuch as I get annoyed whenever someone doesn't see things the-only-true-way. There was misunderstanding on both sides. But we talked it out, I think we understood each other's point of view, and we moved on.


Kat - Apr 12, 2003 12:33:19 am PDT #9275 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I was annoyed only insomuch as I get annoyed whenever someone doesn't see things the-only-true-way.

Jon and I are one here. I was having a true Beatles moment with "Try to see it my way...."

But we talked it out, I think we understood each other's point of view, and we moved on.

sniff sniff. I'm glad. I was worried you were mad at me.

I'm such a girl.


Trudy Booth - Apr 12, 2003 12:33:40 am PDT #9276 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

But when it's something truly hateful or offensive? How do you let that go by?

I don't particularly well myself. Generally, though, I think Zoe is more obnoxious than H & O.


Elena - Apr 12, 2003 12:35:28 am PDT #9277 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.

Luckily I've been several hundred posts behind when I've been particularly bothered by posts.


arby - Apr 12, 2003 12:37:07 am PDT #9278 of 10001
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)

I also think that we can do what I did, trepidation causing as it is. I asked. People discuss.

Yeah but no one wanted to be the mean one that said she should be warned, when people have been pissed off to the point of out-of-characterness for quite a while now. I think a good self-enforcing system would have warned her already.

Ooh, I know - what if we add an option to flag a post (any post) as offensive, for a Stompy to review, and then if your number of offensive posts is higher than x, you automatically get warned by a Stompy? Then it's less like a witch-hunt and more of a self-regulating system.

[ETA context]


Jon B. - Apr 12, 2003 12:38:24 am PDT #9279 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

sniff sniff. I'm glad. I was worried you were mad at me.

awwww. {{Kat}} I get caught up in the moment, but I'm always able to step back and remember that it's just a dumb ol' message board.


Kat - Apr 12, 2003 12:41:25 am PDT #9280 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

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Deadwood being thrown on the bonfire...