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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Dana - Mar 22, 2003 9:38:25 pm PST #8761 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Group hug!

stupid war.

I completely agree with the idea that people are on edge because of the war. I've seen it in several places over the past few weeks.


Michele T. - Mar 22, 2003 9:49:55 pm PST #8762 of 10001
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Absolutely and completely, I agree. Either that, or the entire world has PMS. Occam's Razor suggests it's the war...


Gandalfe - Mar 22, 2003 10:01:03 pm PST #8763 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

If the board decides that old issues may be revisited under the new rules, and not subject to the new moratorium, then the war thread issue is next for the discussion since it’s gotten four “seconds”. If the board votes that old issues are subject to the moratorium, then the war thread issue is moot and dead until the moratorium is over. Does everybody agree with that?

A hearty yes.


scrappy - Mar 23, 2003 12:00:18 am PST #8764 of 10001
Nobody

Wolfram--great post. You have my friendship and my respect, FWIW.


Noumenon - Mar 23, 2003 12:43:28 am PST #8765 of 10001
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

Finally, I’m really not privy to much in the way of back channel and I don’t know if I’ve made any enemies over this.

I knew I should've e-mailed you! I'll just say front-channel that I'm not reading you shaking my fist at the screen. More like wanting to send hugs and featherbed armor, because arguing is strainful even when you stay courteous and respectful.


Deena - Mar 23, 2003 12:53:31 am PST #8766 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

hah! more strainful I think.

You did okay Wolfram. It's good to know you're not tearing out your hair in distress.

I've adopted the motto Doblerize! for myself. I had no idea it was so effective.


Fay - Mar 23, 2003 3:23:21 am PST #8767 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I’m really not privy to much in the way of back channel and I don’t know if I’ve made any enemies over this. I doubt I’ve made any friends

I think you've conducted yourself courteously throughout. Not that I've been Little Miss Actively Involved, like, but I've been following the debate, albeit erratically. There have been differences of opinion and misunderstandings all round, and nerves have been frayed. But I never doubted your sincerity, nor have you seemed, to me, to be intentionally inflammatory. (Although my first reading of the 2nd 'banning' remark was initially that it had that intention - but I think you explained & contextualised it thoroughly.)

(fwiw, I'm not big with the backchannel either)


Cindy - Mar 23, 2003 3:47:13 am PST #8768 of 10001
Nobody

I knew I should've e-mailed you! I'll just say front-channel that I'm not reading you shaking my fist at the screen. More like wanting to send hugs and featherbed armor, because arguing is strainful even when you stay courteous and respectful.

Wolfram, I feel the same way Nou does. And fwiw - there was no back channel here. I understood your devotion to the principle, I just also understood the other devotion to the other principle. There were no shaky fists here. Thank you for what you just did. Very much.

Coffee and donuts are on me, Buffistas.


Nutty - Mar 23, 2003 4:25:10 am PST #8769 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

1) Cindy, why on earth are you awake so early?

2) Do you deliver aforementioned coffee and donuts?


Cindy - Mar 23, 2003 4:58:50 am PST #8770 of 10001
Nobody

They were only metaphorical coffee and donuts, Nutty - so yes, I suppose they were delivered already, right in that post. Am I correct in thinking you need the more anvil-y type of coffee and donuts? (me, too)

I was awake because I died on my couch last night at about 10:15. I'd had a big glass of water. I've had 3 kids. A 36 year old bladder is sensitive, like a finely tuned violin or summat.

Also, when I wake up that early - it's sooooo quiet here, that it's hard to resist.

eta - that's all natter - sorry folks. Didn't remember where I was.