Can't you ever get your mind out of the hellmouth?

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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


§ ita § - Mar 20, 2003 8:53:31 pm PST #8509 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

COMM's above my fold. You should buy a bigger monitor. And no, it's not a BBaBB issue, not when the code's working, anyway.

I loves me some COMM, but I don't see why it needs to go higher. Can we explain it to me again?


bicyclops - Mar 20, 2003 8:53:34 pm PST #8510 of 10001

I don't believe this ever happened. We don't tend toward silence. You may have noticed. I am quite confident that I could post "Green peas are yummy" in Natter and there'd wind up being a debate.

So there's a debate. When does a debate become a consensus?


Betsy HP - Mar 20, 2003 8:55:23 pm PST #8511 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

ita thinks she's a Cool Kid just because her monitor is bigger and she could beat us all up and she wears nifty metal mesh halters

Oh, wait. ita is a Cool Kid.

Hey, ita, can I sit next to you at lunch? Huh? Huh?


John H - Mar 20, 2003 8:55:25 pm PST #8512 of 10001

I don't believe this ever happened. We don't tend toward silence.
So there's a debate. When does a debate become a consensus?

That's a misunderstanding of what Betsy said. She was replying to the statement that people raise an issue, it doesn't get discussed, so that's called consensus.


bicyclops - Mar 20, 2003 8:56:36 pm PST #8513 of 10001

When is it a consensus? 2 people agree, 3? When?

With a VOTE you know.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 20, 2003 8:56:46 pm PST #8514 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

OK-- we are not going to argue about what makes a consensus

We know we can't agree on it.

That is why voting was proposed in the first place.

Anything we decided by the old method can be revisited after the time alotted (provided Betsy's proposal passes) or if the proposal doesn't pass it can be revisited.

cart befre horse here.


bitterchick - Mar 20, 2003 8:57:10 pm PST #8515 of 10001

Am I the only one who thinks reasonableness should be a necessary factor here?

See, I take issue with what you consider reasonable. We can't simply make a decision to reopen the War Thread issue without it impacting other decisions that we have made. You want us to make an exception for this one thread. Well, what about the person who really wanted a TV thread and feels that, since this community has been much more focused on pop culture than political debate, an exception should be made for them as well?

You seem to be all "rules need to be flexible" but you're not the only member of this community and we need to address a larger issue than just this one thread that you want. As other people mentioned, theoretically, revisiting this conversation means we can undo things as well. It could all turn into one big mess and we need to consider that before we open ourselves up to it.


§ ita § - Mar 20, 2003 8:58:38 pm PST #8516 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

People need to be more flexible than the rules.


jengod - Mar 20, 2003 8:58:47 pm PST #8517 of 10001

I further propose that we shorten the sidebar slugs thusly:

Bureaucracy 1:
Administrative discussions

Better Board:
Tech support and site development

Debate Club
If it's proposed in Bureau, it gets discussed in detail here.

There's just not a lot of room in the sidebar. I think there's room in the FAQ and/or in the header WITHIN the Voting Discussion thread to explain the minutae of the rules and procedures.

We can be cute and snarky and witty everywhere else.


bicyclops - Mar 20, 2003 8:59:36 pm PST #8518 of 10001

OK-- we are not going to argue about what makes a consensus

We know we can't agree on it.

That is why voting was proposed in the first place.

Anything we decided by the old method can be revisited after the time alotted (provided Betsy's proposal passes) or if the proposal doesn't pass it can be revisited.

If we can't agree on what makes a consensus. how do we know what we decided by the old method?