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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Gandalfe - Mar 20, 2003 6:19:42 pm PST #8415 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Gandalfe, if that was a joke, it wasn't very funny.

My apologies. I'll delete.

< EDIT > Changed my mind. I'm not going to delete it, if only because it then makes the rest of the conversation make NO sense whatsoever.


askye - Mar 20, 2003 6:21:58 pm PST #8416 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

Gandalfe--First, midnight was picked as the beginning and end time for discussion and voting so that there could be 4 or 3 complete days.

Second--the crack about banning and terrorists, that was completely uncalled for. I'm not even sure why you made it, you haven't said anything that would be cause for banning.

This is at least the second time I've seen someone say "if you're going to ban me" when a person has expressed a differing view point.

Look. We don't ban people for having and expressing differing view points and to be honest it's annoying to see people through out the disclaimer "you can ban me..." and then say something.

If there are people who honestly think that is how this community works then perhaps they need to sit back and watch us in action some more.

x posty


§ ita § - Mar 20, 2003 6:22:14 pm PST #8417 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I read this, I swear I did. I even thought I was following it.

Turns out all I'm sure about is that people are pissed.

And that I'm glad I missed it in real time.

When's the thread being opened again?

(I moved it to the RH side).


P.M. Marc - Mar 20, 2003 6:22:43 pm PST #8418 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Please, everybody chill! There are people getting bombs dropped on them, and y'all are getting upset over a posting board?

Honestly, I think that's why.

And while Allyson's comment crossed the snark line, I'd ask that new people who are suddenly speaking up please keep in mind that a radical paradigm shift for an existing culture isn't an easy thing, and that's what's happening.

Given how we used to do things, and how long it worked, and how resistant some of us still are to the change (and I voted for voting!), it comes across as somewhat insulting when there's this "well, yes, but the rules have changed, so let's look at the old decisions and redo them". It may be irrational, but it smacks of someone moving into the neighbourhood and suddenly demanding that all the houses get painted a colour that you happen to approve of. Does that make sense? At all?

Please?


Sophia Brooks - Mar 20, 2003 6:23:50 pm PST #8419 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

ita, we (or Jess and I) decided that it can be opened at any time now.

Whoever opens needs to link in press with my post above or let me know.

We are still keeping the rest of the time at midnight because it is easier.

And I am not pissed. Excet for the part where I have had, like 3 glasses of wine.


Gandalfe - Mar 20, 2003 6:26:53 pm PST #8420 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Honestly, it was just a line that popped into my head, because I was going to brutally rip Allyson a new one for that comment, and thought that it might troll me, and then thought, "Well, let them ban me" and then I got goofy.


Anne W. - Mar 20, 2003 6:26:57 pm PST #8421 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

It may be irrational, but it smacks of someone moving into the neighbourhood and suddenly demanding that all the houses get painted a colour that you happen to approve of. Does that make sense? At all?

It makes perfect sense to me. I'm glad that we developed some procedures for making decisions. I don't think that means we're going to become all regimented or anything. Instead, it gives us a way of both controlling the rate of change and making sure that things don't go nutso-cuckoo.


Jesse - Mar 20, 2003 6:28:39 pm PST #8422 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

OK, so moving on....we're ready to open the Formal Discussion on the waiting period question?


Sophia Brooks - Mar 20, 2003 6:29:14 pm PST #8423 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Yes. Jesse. yes.


Gandalfe - Mar 20, 2003 6:30:14 pm PST #8424 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Yep.