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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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bitterchick - Mar 20, 2003 5:05:57 pm PST #8342 of 10001

I second that, too, and feel we should throw out 3 months as an option but add on the clause that if there is a signficant change in circumstances, we can move to reopen. I think the example I used last time is: if an Alias thread gets shot down, we close discussion for 6 months. But if two months later, Joss takes over Alias and Willow joins the CIA, someone can move to reopen the conversation due to the change in circumstance.

You've just murdered your own grandfather.

And he was already dead. I'm SO confused.


DavidS - Mar 20, 2003 5:06:22 pm PST #8343 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Also, it might be a good idea--for sanity's sake--to make a list of all decisions made during the last six months.

Ahhh, the ever-wise Anne to the rescue.

I think that any decisions made by consensus in the last six months be grandfathered over as "closed" for at least six months.


Cindy - Mar 20, 2003 5:06:41 pm PST #8344 of 10001
Nobody

there's an overwhelming sentiment in favor and none of the opposers are bitter about it

How do you know no one was bitter? Frankly, I shut up about it because I'm a fairly new poster and didn't know how things were done/decided on the board. Also because I didn't feel like becoming known as the squeaky wheel.

I wasn't bitter, but the war thread shut down was definitely one of the faux-consensus decisions I had in the back of my mind when we were discussing voting at all. I didn't change my mind, I gave up.

I understand that we don't want to go re-visit every decision we've ever made. I do think things like the war thread, a tv thread and whatnot were what folks had in mind when they voted to vote. And I think they're what they had in mind when voting passed.

I stopped talking about the war thread because I didn't want to piss anyone off, and because (I haven't reviewed the conversation) it seemed to me that at least some of the people saying "no" were saying "no" because there was no war at the time of the discussion.

On the other hand, now? I don't think I care enough to have a war thread to second Wolfram's motion (sorry Wolfram). However, that's not how I felt at the "decision" point of that conversation.


bitterchick - Mar 20, 2003 5:07:41 pm PST #8345 of 10001

Anne rocks. Also,

I think that any decisions made by consensus in the last six months be grandfathered over as "closed" for at least six months.

Yes.


Jessica - Mar 20, 2003 5:07:51 pm PST #8346 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I fourth Sophia's closed-discussion time limit proposal.

Let's move it over to Lightbulbs then?


Anne W. - Mar 20, 2003 5:09:10 pm PST #8347 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Thanks for the ego-feeding, all. I'll start pulling the list together, as there is no way I will be watching any TV tonight unless C.S.I. is a) not a repeat and b) not pre-empted.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 20, 2003 5:10:48 pm PST #8348 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

PROPOSAL: When we first started this whole voting thing, our ultimate goal was to be able to close discussions and not have them over and over and over and over....

After a proposal, discussion and vote, further discussion on this matter should be closed for: 3 months 6 months 1 year

In discussion, I would like to narrow this to 2 choices so we need not get into trying to decide how to vote.

Proposer Sophia Brooks
Seconds Anne, Sean K, brenda M. ,Deena , Jessica

Discussion: 3/21/03 12 am EST - 3/24/03 11:59 pm EST

Voting: 3/25/03 12 am EST - 3/28/03 12:00 am EST

This should be posted in Press when we open the threa


bicyclops - Mar 20, 2003 5:11:14 pm PST #8349 of 10001

Um. I know we just opened this snazzy new thread but who else seconded Wolfram's motion? I only saw two.

There were 3. Gandalfe, Noni, & me.


DavidS - Mar 20, 2003 5:11:17 pm PST #8350 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Second Sophia's proposal.


bitterchick - Mar 20, 2003 5:11:30 pm PST #8351 of 10001

I thought it was 4 days of discussion and 3 days of voting.