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'War Stories'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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Deena - Mar 20, 2003 4:59:58 pm PST #8327 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

but we never said decisions of the old system could be revisited.

Actually, back in the discussion on whether or not we should have a voting method, this was specifically addressed and agreed (by the buffista version of consensus) that we would NOT revisit any previous decisions.

Also, said in voting thread just before it closed, that 6 months seemed to have the most support, but 3 months and 1 year were also mentioned in regard to closing discussion after a decision had been made.

edit to fix spelling


P.M. Marc - Mar 20, 2003 5:00:01 pm PST #8328 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

If we go back and revisit all the decisions made BC, we undo all the work we've done on the new system.

Yeah, and I'll start making re-cock-u-lous proposals like, oh "Natter was decided by con. Let's vote on the Natter need."

I'm with John. Just because the system has changed, doesn't mean that the OLD results are invalid.


Anne W. - Mar 20, 2003 5:01:17 pm PST #8329 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I would second a discussion on topic dormancy.

Also, it might be a good idea--for sanity's sake--to make a list of all decisions made during the last six months. If no one else wants to do it, I'll threadsuck and make the list sometime this weekend.

Edit: the purpose of the list would be to track which topics were officially grandfathered in as "closed" topics, and when they'd be open for discussion again.


John H - Mar 20, 2003 5:02:19 pm PST #8330 of 10001

Temporal paradox! Temporal paradox!

Exactly -- we only took a vote on new decision-making procedures because it was decided by consensus. That decision is now invalid, or revisitable? But it led to the voting system you want to use to start a war thread.

You've just murdered your own grandfather.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 20, 2003 5:02:22 pm PST #8331 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

PROPOSAL:

When we first started this whole voting thing, our ultimate goal was to be able to close discussions and not have them over and over and over and over....

So I propose that:

After a proposal, discussion and vote, further discussion on this matter should be closed for:

3 months 6 months 1 year

In discussion, I would like to narrow this to 2 choices so we need not get into trying to decide how to vote.


Deena - Mar 20, 2003 5:02:50 pm PST #8332 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Anne is a goddess, but we knew that.


Sean K - Mar 20, 2003 5:02:51 pm PST #8333 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I agree that the next vote should be on how long a discussion gets shut down.

I'll be a third second.


brenda m - Mar 20, 2003 5:03:09 pm PST #8334 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Seconded.


Betsy HP - Mar 20, 2003 5:03:30 pm PST #8335 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

You've just murdered your own grandfather.

Actually, he died before I was born or thought of.

disappears in puff of logic


Deena - Mar 20, 2003 5:03:31 pm PST #8336 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

I think 1 year is too long. I don't have a solid opinion on the other two.