Um. I know we just opened this snazzy new thread but who else seconded Wolfram's motion? I only saw two.
Oh, wow. This place looks great. Oh, I feel like a witch in a magic shop.
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A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
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bitterchick - Mar 20, 2003 4:53:52 pm PST #8313 of 10001
Sophia Brooks - Mar 20, 2003 4:54:20 pm PST #8314 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
We aren't moving the discussion, are we? I think we are just opening the thread.
Regardless of anything else, there is no forth for the proposal.
Gandalfe - Mar 20, 2003 4:54:40 pm PST #8315 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.
But you're making the decision to not revisit old "consensus decisions" by consensus, which is the old way.
biclops and Wolfram are my new heroes.
Betsy HP - Mar 20, 2003 4:54:56 pm PST #8316 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
Oh. Confused now.
Wolfram - Mar 20, 2003 4:55:44 pm PST #8317 of 10001
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Okay, I'll be away from thread for a bit. Again, (ominous voice), this isn't over.
Betsy HP - Mar 20, 2003 4:55:46 pm PST #8318 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
Moved from the voting thread:
Wolfram asked:
if the Firefly thread hadn't opened, and a several weeks later the Firefly posts in other threads had just gotten rampant would you agree that the Firefly discussion had been closed for a signficant period of time, or would the issue have been revisited?
My understanding of the rules is that a decision, once made, is closed for the next six months. If we decide that posters must not post links, and then linking to blogs starts to seem like a lot of fun, too bad; the decision is closed for six months.
Did other people have a different understanding of that vote?
bitterchick - Mar 20, 2003 4:57:05 pm PST #8319 of 10001
Okay my understanding of how the new system works is this:
1. Wolfram proposes re-opening the War Thread discussion.
2. Four people must second his motion.
3. Then we move over to the Voting Discussion Thread.
Until then, we stay here.
Am I wrong?
P.M. Marc - Mar 20, 2003 4:57:11 pm PST #8320 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Closed for the moment.
Revisiting things is what got this place in trouble in the first place.
Oh, and so did, oh, say, having some server load issues, though that was separate trouble. Related, kind of.
Sophia Brooks - Mar 20, 2003 4:57:23 pm PST #8321 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
Actually Betsy, I thought we had consensed on 6 months, but actually a few people (Plei is the only one I remember) thought that was too long and wanted 3. So I think we have to vote on that.
I can propose it now.
brenda m - Mar 20, 2003 4:57:43 pm PST #8322 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Wrong. Reopening the war thread discussion is a sweeping policy change. Once you do it, it's done. I fully expect that we'll be revisiting the TV thread and the politics thread and whatever else we had decided against in the past three months.
Reluctantly, I have to disagree with this. I don't want to see old decisions revisited either. But wasn't part of the rationale for voting at all that after a vote we could officially call a subject closed? As in "every couple of months someone brings up the politics thread and we have to discuss this again. If we voted and it lost, no one could bring it up again for six months." I can't fully agree that the fact that we voted to vote means that these subjects are now closed.
I hate to even say this, because I don't want to get into this issue again, and I think the war thread idea was discussed and decided and should be a done deal. But I'm not sure closing the issue, or other issues that came up in the past, is the right way to be going about this.