Reynolds, I'm a dangerous-minded man on a ship loaded with hurt. Now, why you got me chatting with your peons?

Womack ,'The Message'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


victor infante - Mar 19, 2003 1:54:44 pm PST #8148 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

go no big whoop. choose no big whoop.

I am big with the no big whoopage.


amych - Mar 19, 2003 1:55:11 pm PST #8149 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Yeah, but there are people who like it more than Whip Appeal, and that makes me sad.

Wow. Umm. Okay.

First, I like Dead Horse because to me it has a tone of not-taking-ourselves-too-seriously, not of futility. YDHMV, as always.

Second, well, see my last post. Whip Appeal doesn't make me froth alarmingly at the mouth or anything, it just doesn't mean anything to me.

I think I'll just shut up and leave bureaucracy now.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 19, 2003 1:55:27 pm PST #8150 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Speak Softly and Carry a Big Whip.


Jon B. - Mar 19, 2003 1:56:24 pm PST #8151 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Speak Softly and Carry a Big Whoop.


Dana - Mar 19, 2003 1:56:59 pm PST #8152 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Speak Softly and Carry a Big Whoop.

Hee! I like that.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 19, 2003 1:58:17 pm PST #8153 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Speak Softly and Carry a Big Whoop

BWAH!


Jesse - Mar 19, 2003 1:58:31 pm PST #8154 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Don't leave, amych! It makes me sad that you don't know the song, too! It's not like I'm mortally offended or anything.


Lyra Jane - Mar 19, 2003 1:58:45 pm PST #8155 of 10001
Up with the sun

My opinions on bitterchick's questions:

What behavior do we consider deserving of a warning?

The obvious ones: intentional privacy violations, threats to other posters, crimes (e.g., scamming us out of money) against the board. Actually, those are probably all more ban-immedaitely than warn, but YKWIM.

The less-obvious judgment calls: Harassment of other posters. I don't want this to include simple one-time namecalling in a heated discussion -- it would have to be something that was clearly meant to offend and done with a (relatively) cool head.

Also, repeated nose-thumbing at our spoiler and natter-deletion policies, defined as X offenses over Y amount of time. On this one, I'd be inclined to let a lot slide -- it's more to make sure people are aware when they have a problem.

What constitutes a warning?

I would say a post in the relevant thread bearing a Stompy logo, copied into an email. This should include in invitation to talk about it in bureaucracy.

How do we notify party of said warning?

By email and in the thread where the offense was committed.

How much time do we give a warned poster before moving onto the suspension phase?

Until their next offense, I thought. I'm not clear what this question means.

How do we handle a poster that has been warned but feels it unfair or unjustified? Is there an appeals procedure?

I think there should be one, yes -- maybe the warned poster could discuss it in bureaucracy, and there could be a vote on it? I worry this could be divisive, so perhaps a closed-door hearing might be appropriate in some cases.


John H - Mar 19, 2003 1:59:55 pm PST #8156 of 10001

Oh yeah, fourthly and fifthly (sounding more and more like whatshisname from Twelfth Night):

  • Like I said before, I would rather we had no suspension/banning procedure than the one we have, or more specifically, I wish we had not used our suspension procedure in this case. Mieskie as Mieskie never bothered me at all, ironically.
  • There is a way to exclude people without using IPs -- you could do it with cookies. It's not something you couldn't get around, but it would take out the less tech-minded of trolls.


Jess M. - Mar 19, 2003 2:00:13 pm PST #8157 of 10001
Let me just say that popularity with people on public transportation does not equal literary respect. --Jesse

Whip it, Whip it Good