Spike: Heard what happened up top, offing your dad and all. Don't know if you know this, but, uh…I killed my mum. Actually, I'd already killed her, and then she tried to shag me, so I had to-- Wesley: Thank you. I'm…very comforted.

'Lineage'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Nutty - Mar 19, 2003 12:34:13 pm PST #8111 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Are tact and diplomacy not the same thing? she asks, in a teeny tiny voice.

Merriam-Webster:
Tact:
1 : sensitive mental or aesthetic perception [converted the novel into a play with remarkable skill and tact]
2 : a keen sense of what to do or say in order to maintain good relations with others or avoid offense

Diplomacy:
1 : the art and practice of conducting negotiations between nations
2 : skill in handling affairs without arousing hostility : TACT

Can you tell how much I don't want to work today?


Allyson - Mar 19, 2003 12:35:11 pm PST #8112 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

When Buffistas Attack.

Uh, no.


Jessica - Mar 19, 2003 12:36:49 pm PST #8113 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Are tact and diplomacy not the same thing?

Oh, well, yes, if you want to think of it that way. (Although I tend to think of tact as involving personal matters, and diplomany involving more official ones.)


Sean K - Mar 19, 2003 12:36:50 pm PST #8114 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Uh, no.

Yeah, maybe too divisive-making. Just a thought.


Jesse - Mar 19, 2003 12:41:02 pm PST #8115 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh, well, yes, if you want to think of it that way. (Although I tend to think of tact as involving personal matters, and diplomany involving more official ones.)

Me too, but I think the point was that it's tact in the quote.

I also want to recommend Buff Diving as a soothing diversion whenever one is needed.

Also, I like what Nutty proposed.


kat perez - Mar 19, 2003 12:49:42 pm PST #8116 of 10001
"We have trust issues." Mylar

Voting Discussion 1: Whip Appeal

With a nod to previous discussion about being the Buffista whip. Plus, it sounds porny.


Lyra Jane - Mar 19, 2003 12:50:12 pm PST #8117 of 10001
Up with the sun

Random quotes from the Buffy Dialogue Database (I searched on "freedom," "Discussion," rules, and "voting.")

I do not have time to play by the rules tonight. – A New Man

So she walks in and the rules just suddenly break? – A new Man

All these rules just to win little plastic disks. – The I in Team

Color me totally self-involved – Out of Mind, Out of Sight

Oh, yeah, campaigning. Rough gig. -- Homecoming

And I have no idea what to do with this, but I love it:

CORDELIA: I don't get it. Buffy's the Slayer. Shouldn't she have...
XANDER: What, a license to kill?
CORDELIA: Well, not for fun. But she's like this superman. Shouldn't there be different rules for her?
WILLOW: Sure, in a fascist society.
CORDELIA: Right! Why can't we have one of those? -- Ted


Fred Pete - Mar 19, 2003 12:52:43 pm PST #8118 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Some observations on bitterchick's questions. (This isn't a formal proposal.)

What behavior do we consider deserving of a warning?

I'm not sure we can come up with language that would cover every possible event, unless we keep it vague. And that raises its own issues. But I'd suggest, as a guiding principle, that warnings should rarely be given for a single incident. Everyone slips up now and then, and nobody should be penalized for one goof. Unless it's so far out there that any idiot should know it's beyond the pale.

What constitutes a warning?

I like the idea of bringing the offender to Bureaucracy before a warning is issued. However, an official warning should be clearly marked as such (say, the words "Official Warning" in the header).

How do we notify party of said warning?

A post in the relevant thread and e-mail to the offender's official address should be enough. Send the e-mail return receipt requested. Notice in Press would be overkill, and Beep Me would be off topic.

The e-mail and post should identify the specific behavior for which the person is being warned, with Nillys to the posts.

How much time do we give a warned poster before moving onto the suspension phase?

Depends on the behavior. For a general guiding principle, 1 day after receipt of the e-mail, or 3 days after posting in the thread, whichever comes first. Less if the offender is particularly toxic (e.g., driving multiple posters from a thread).

How do we handle a poster that has been warned but feels it unfair or unjustified? Is there an appeals procedure?

Come to Bureaucracy and ask for a vote. The request should include the part of the e-mail identifying the offending behavior and Nillyed posts, or Nilly the notice in the thread.


Katie M - Mar 19, 2003 12:52:48 pm PST #8119 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Voting Discussion 1: Whip Appeal

Hee, I like it.

Oh, yeah, campaigning. Rough gig. -- Homecoming

Also has potential. "Voting Discussion 1: Campaigning is a Rough Gig"?

Ah, that conversation's in Ted! I thought S3 for sure. Thanks for finding it, Lyra Jane.


Jesse - Mar 19, 2003 12:53:06 pm PST #8120 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Whip Appeal

OMG, I don't think we can use that, because I'd spend all day remembering this one guy from high school.