Well, then, this is a day I'll feel good to be me.

Mal ,'Trash'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Jon B. - Mar 19, 2003 11:58:53 am PST #8078 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

It was in the post where I mentioned it Jon.

D'ohh!

OK, what name would Artie know you by? Cindy or something else?


Jesse - Mar 19, 2003 11:59:19 am PST #8079 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I think we need to make the new thread anyway, AND continue to toss this other stuff around in here.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 19, 2003 12:01:26 pm PST #8080 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Yes, Jesse. I agree.


Cindy - Mar 19, 2003 12:01:58 pm PST #8081 of 10001
Nobody

Jon, he'd know me by Xanderella. I just sent an introduction email (cc'd to the board's webmistress (non-tech issues), Phoenix).

Here's the text of it:

Hi Artie and Phoenix,

I was hoping you could help out a fellow fan board. At another board I frequent, we've had a problem with a suspended member coming back and posting under a new name, a lot like Geo and Jono did at the Beta.

Some of us have suggested blocking this problem poster's IP number. The technology-inclined folks over there are concerned that (this is hypothetical) if any innocent parties happen to share that IP number of anyone we want to block, then an innocent person could be blocked in the process, which would not be so great.

I was telling them that on the Beta, drlloyd11 and I showed the same IP numbers in our post headers, but that when you blocked him (at least I've been given to understand that you did), fortunately, I was not blocked.

I have no knack for the technical, so this email is just an introduction. I've pointed one of the board programmers in Artie's direction, hoping maybe you'd have a helpful tip for him. I'd appreciate it if you could help him, his name is Jon.

Thanks,

Cindy/Xanderella


Allyson - Mar 19, 2003 12:03:10 pm PST #8082 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Ugh. That makes me feel squicky.


Allyson - Mar 19, 2003 12:03:38 pm PST #8083 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Please, Cindy, keep Phoenix and Artie away. Please.


Katie M - Mar 19, 2003 12:05:27 pm PST #8084 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Yes, Jesse. I agree.

Yeah, so do I - I just wanted to get the infrastructure for moving it to formal discussion set up before we got sidetracked.

Is Mr. Pointy up anywhere? I've forgotten where it went. Though I suppose we could go with "I Guess We Should Have Voted" per ita's suggestion. (Assuming that you meant that quote and not the capitalism thingie.)


brenda m - Mar 19, 2003 12:05:40 pm PST #8085 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Yeah, I don't think we're at the proposal stage yet.

Thinking out loud:

I could see making official stompy warnings a little easier, but allowing more of them before it came to suspension. If two warnings were allowed before things went to a next stage, the stompies might feel a little freer to issue them (and maybe we'd want a two-stompy agreement so that one person didn't feel so isolated in taking action.) A second warning could take the form of "we've asked you about this before - you're not listening. Please hie yourself to bureaucracy to discuss the matter before further action is needed." Then if the poster either refused to discuss or was still recalcitrant in the discussion, suspension would be the next step.


bitterchick - Mar 19, 2003 12:06:22 pm PST #8086 of 10001

Okay, I'll bite. I propose that we discuss an official policy regarding problem posters. Specifically:

  • What behavior do we consider deserving of a warning?

  • What constitutes a warning?

  • How do we notify party of said warning?

  • How much time do we give a warned poster before moving onto the suspension phase?

  • How do we handle a poster that has been warned but feels it unfair or unjustified? Is there an appeals procedure?


Cindy - Mar 19, 2003 12:07:31 pm PST #8087 of 10001
Nobody

Allyson,

I didn't mention the board or the fandom. You said you wanted TWoP moderation here, but the fact is we can't (or won't) block offenders, because we're afraid of blocking non-offenders. Maybe it's possible to block one and not the other.