"No Big Whoop" trumps monkeys every time.

Registering an anti-vote on No Big Whoop.

Are there any show references about judging, or voting, or talking things to death, that we could use?

Thank you for making me laugh, Nutty.

Regarding voting procedures -- there was an open issue of, if a proposal is defeated, how long before it can be brought up again. 3 months? 6 months? Were there any other choices?

Are there any other open issues wrt procedure?

Dead Horse!

I'm pretty sure there was a quote from a recent Farscape that would fit the thread perfectly.

First, though, we need to all change to Farscapistas.

Are there any show references about judging, or voting, or talking things to death, that we could use?

Well, Cordy had that conversation with Xander about democracy, didn't she? In Consequences, maybe?

I'm going to bring up mieskie, which is something I didn't think I should do.

I think there were a few problems.

First of all, we were probably too quick to suspend him the first time, without talking to him. That's the kind of thing that needs review if/when we get to it. That needs to happen way before we consider moderator type stompies.

Second - for those of us to whom it was apparent that Schmoker=mieskie, it was incredibly frustrating that we decided the most Buffista way to handle the problem was to believe him. So the second problem was not whether or not we had stompies, or rules, or rule-enforcing stompies, but that we were impotent in proving what at least a fraction of us knew to be the truth. So then everything he did (to those of us who were convinced) looked like a wink and a taunt, whether it was or not.

Because I'm not technically inclined, I did not and still do not understand why we can't block the IP number of a suspended poster. I know that I was held up as an example, because there was a Bronze Beta troll who had the same IP number I did, and we don't want to inadvertantly block regular people when blocking trolls.

HOWEVER - and if I didn't state this at the time, I meant to - the Bronze Beta webmaster, Artie (artie@BronzeBeta.com) figured out a way to block that troll without blocking me. How come he can do it and we can't or won't?

There must be some way that Artie was able to discern between me and drlloyd, because he did. Would a technologista please consider contacting him, explaining the IP situation that is making us hesitant to block posters via IP number, reference that you heard Artie managed to block drlloyd11 and not block the person who had the same IP number displayed (Xanderella) and ask how he did it?

How about the Department of Homepage Security?

Not all users have fixed IP addresses, Cindy. Some ISPs randomly assign you an address when you dial in. Some users, if they're connecting from work, might have the same IP address as many of their co-workers. So we could end up blocking someone that shouldn't be blocked, and we might not effectively block someone who should be blocked. I've no idea what Artie did.

OK, when I said that, I had no idea about this. Honestly.