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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


§ ita § - Mar 18, 2003 10:09:06 pm PST #7919 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Throwing weight behind

I think you can do that without being mindcontrolled too, you know.


Laura - Mar 18, 2003 10:12:59 pm PST #7920 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Jumping in at the end to post here what I put already in Press. If you have any questions let me know. 'Night all. {{{All of ya}}}

94 voters total. Most the first day. Give you the breakdown for that sometime later.

edit - and it doesn't fit so try again.


P.M. Marc - Mar 18, 2003 10:13:16 pm PST #7921 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

HAHAHAHAHA!

42

Dude.

That's too perfect.

And, basically, what Brenda said. But man, 42.


Betsy HP - Mar 18, 2003 10:14:07 pm PST #7922 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I find the harmonic beauty of "42" breathtaking.

Mmmmmmm.


Rebecca Lizard - Mar 18, 2003 10:15:06 pm PST #7923 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

I think you can do that without being mindcontrolled too, you know.

Yeah. I am feeling the stupid right now. I'm sorry, Allyson?


Laura - Mar 18, 2003 10:15:20 pm PST #7924 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

The summary:

ITEM 1: FORMAL DISCUSSION THREAD
Do we want a separate thread for actual voting discussions?
Yes

ITEM 2: CLOSE DISCUSSION
Do we want to close the talking about a subject when the voting starts?
Yes

ITEM 3: VOTER TURNOUT
How many Buffistas does it take to make a vote count?
42
Do votes of "no preference" count toward this?
Yes

ITEM 4: SECONDS
a) Should more than one Buffista be needed in order to move something to formal discussion and vote?
Yes

b) Please choose a minimum number of people who have to agree with the original proposer before a proposal moves to formal discussion, if the above item passes.
4

ITEM 1: FORMAL DISCUSSION THREAD

Yes

53 61.6%   No 33 38.4%   No Preference 8     Total Votes with preference 86     ITEM 2: CLOSE DISCUSSION Yes 50 57.5%   No 37 42.5%   No Preference 7     Total Votes with preference 87     ITEM 3: VOTER TURNOUT How many Buffistas does it take to make a vote count? Mean 42 3961/94 Median 42 The middle number Mode 50 Favored by 24 voters Do votes of "no preference" count toward this? Yes 72 78.3%   No 20 21.7%   No Preference 2     Total Votes with preference 92     ITEM 4: SECONDS Should more than one Buffista be needed in order to move something to formal discussion and vote? Yes 78 86.7%   No 12 13.3%   No Preference 4     Total Votes with preference 90     Minimum number of people who have to agree with the original proposer before a proposal moves to formal discussion, if the above item passes.   Mean 4 369/94 Median 4 The middle choice Mode 5 Favored by 27 voters


Raw numbers for minimum number of Buffistas:

2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 8, 10, 10, 10, 10, 15, 15, 15, 18, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 35, 35, 40, 40, 40, 40, 40, 40, 40, 42, 45, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 51, 51, 60, 60, 60, 65, 65, 65, 65, 67, 67, 75, 77, 80, 80, 90, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100
Raw numbers for numbers of seconds:

1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 7, 7, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10


victor infante - Mar 18, 2003 10:16:27 pm PST #7925 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

That's not so. He would've been allowed the option to stay.

Well, maybe. In all honesty, I'd say he took the decision away from us by stepping away. On the one hand, he did us all a favor by not having to sort it out any further. On the other, we're left with very little precedent to work from should it happen again. But such is life.

As the guy who eventually flipped the switch on Anathema, I did so because A.) He had a two month suspension that had never been served, and B.) From his e-mails with the Admins as a group and with myself individually, he felt it was best to walk away completely. Those were the only two factors that made me feel justified in closing his account.

That being said, while we were discussing the best way to handle it, I don't feel we could have taken any serious action without bringing it to the board's attention. I do think that we made the right decision approaching him directly, and seeking his input as to what we should do, but I'm not sure we would have been able to do anything major--such as permanent banning or wiping away the suspension entirely--without discussion here. Anathema gave us an out to deal with it beforehand, and for that I'm grateful, but in the big picture, I'm not quite sure how to deal with it next time.

I don't really have any interest in dealing with the personality of Anathema's situation. I have a great deal of interest in discussing the procedure, because while I can say without a doubt that we handled the situation as best we could, I'd like to not have to be left in the same gray zone again.


Rebecca Lizard - Mar 18, 2003 10:16:32 pm PST #7926 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

Thank you very much, Laura.

And now I actually go to bed.

lizardfoot>>>>>><<<<<<<lizardmouth


P.M. Marc - Mar 18, 2003 10:16:50 pm PST #7927 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I find the harmonic beauty of "42" breathtaking.

Ain't it just a kick in the pants?


Laura - Mar 18, 2003 10:17:03 pm PST #7928 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Heh, I had to post that 3 times to get the last 10 in. Now to fix Press!