What brenda said. Sophia, you've done so much work here and I appreciate it greatly. I'll get more involved for the next vote.

Sophia, you rock like a rocking chair made out of granite. Thank you so much for that work.

... Just reviewed my own ballot.

And damn, can I just say, how stupid am I? On the do-No-Preferences-count issue, I said... "no preference", when what I meant was, "yes, 'no preference' does count".

So. Ah. Yeah. Could that be corrected on my ballot? Greatest apologies.

Lizard voted for Pat Buchanan.

RL-- Laura is counting this time, so maybe you should e-mail her with the correction?

Thirding the Sophia love.

Lizard, if you've got a minute could you IM me? I wanted to give you that news update.

Would it muddy the waters more, or less, to go back and vote a second time? Not suggesting it, just asking the question.

Because the form will happily let me vote a second time, it seems.

In the future we probably need to address that.

And, Rebecca, are you there? Can you get on AIM for a second if you are please?

Lizard voted for Pat Buchanan.

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And, Rebecca, are you there? Can you get on AIM for a second if you are please?

(I did, you didn't hear me, then your network kicked you off, insent.)

This is about mieskie, I know it's very late in the game to say anything but this is the first I've caught up to this thread and I wanted to say my piece.

I didn't like what he did to our community and I was glad when he was suspended. However, when he was suspended I was under the impression that he couldn't reregister under a new name, that doing so would be grounds for banning.

Meiskie reregistered, he came back and when he was asked, point blank if he was the same person he lied to us. He said, nope he wasn't that other user, he didn't know who that was, any similiarities were just a coincedince.

I know this is bringing up backchannel and everyone is going to hate that but he sent an email "apologizing" for all the bad feelings that happened in this thread because of him and John. He told me point blank that he was not Mieskie. He lied to me. He lied to all of us.

He came back here and registered under another name and everyone was so...upset and nerves were frayed and there was such disorganization that there was no way to handle the situation. No one on the board to take charge of the situation.

If registering under another id while suspended is grounds for being banned then there shouldn't be any debate about banning Meiskie no matter what name he uses. He's banned.

He came into our community, he broke our rules, and he cause dissent and distrust and heart ache.

Heck, I agreed with him about Attack of the Clones, and as much as I wanted not to ever agree with him on anything or have a conversation with him I ended up having one. I was mad at myself then for it and I'm mad at myself now.

You can say, well he changed, and you can say, well he became a member of this community, you can argue that he deserved a second chance. But we gave him that, over and over and over we gave him chances. Suspension was a second chance. All he had to do was wait two months and then he could come back and it would have been fine.

Instead of being honest with us and treating our community and our rules with respect he lied to us and disprespected our rules.