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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


John H - Mar 15, 2003 5:58:44 pm PST #7727 of 10001

OK, we don't need a post-mortem, but if there are facts which people have forgotten, or appear to have forgotten, you have to forgive people having the impulse to point them out or correct the record.


DavidS - Mar 15, 2003 6:04:21 pm PST #7728 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

you have to forgive people having the impulse to point them out or correct the record.

I'm completely forgiving of the impulse. I get it. But I don't think there's any record and going over it more at this point seems unnecessary. Aside from everything else, I do think Anathema had come to like and value the community. He's absented himself to avoid any further diviseness. Let's respect that. He's taking the loss at this point. Anything else leans towards last-wordism.


John H - Mar 15, 2003 6:14:31 pm PST #7729 of 10001

OK Hec, I get where you're coming from. But honestly? It freaks me out that you keep referring to him as Anathema, a poster who seems like a nice guy and it's a pity we had to ban him. There is no Anathema. There's only mieskie. He was banned once, and he came back a total of three times and was deactivated each time.


Elena - Mar 15, 2003 6:18:01 pm PST #7730 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.

I do think Anathema had come to like and value the community.

See, I think there are several instances of offensive behaviour from S/A (not SA) and p/a apologies. The very fact that he reregistered and posted after being suspended/banned strikes me as thumbing his nose at our community standards - which does not seem like valuing (or respecting) our community.

But it is over, and I'm fine with this being my last word on the subject. And please note that it's more last than Hec's.


Dana - Mar 15, 2003 6:40:41 pm PST #7731 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

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DavidS - Mar 15, 2003 6:41:41 pm PST #7732 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

OK Hec, I get where you're coming from. But honestly? It freaks me out that you keep referring to him as Anathema,

Just to keep it straight for me, I call him Anathema when I'm referring to recent events since that was his name when this happened, and mieskie when he was banned. It's just a timeline placeholder distinction to me.

a poster who seems like a nice guy and it's a pity we had to ban him.

Hmmm, it's not that so much. I did see him trying that's all. And I do think it's a loss for him. That's it.

There is no Anathema. There's only mieskie. He was banned once, and he came back a total of three times and was deactivated each time.

I know what he did wrong. I'll be very direct about it - I thought it was a horrible deal when you left and Anathema was still here. I think you contribute so much to this board and it was very upsetting to me. I didn't feel like there was the will in the community to dig around in the issue of Anathema's identity. But I wanted you back and that's why I emailed you. I missed you. shrugs Don't misunderstand my loyalties here. I just feel a little rueful about the whole thing. Like it didn't have to be as hard on you, or the community or him. Like we should've handled it all better. But I don't think we did terribly either. I don't know if I can explain it any better than that. But making statements for the record now just doesn't feel right to me now. It's your prerogative, but I don't think you need to defend yourself against anything.


Dana - Mar 15, 2003 6:45:23 pm PST #7733 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I'd also like to say the following.

As someone pointed out above, we've placed our Stompies in a difficult position. I'd like to see people try and remember that and give them the benefit of the doubt. I'd like for everyone to be given the benefit of the doubt, of course, but especially the Stompies, and especially when we deal with particularly difficult issues.


DavidS - Mar 15, 2003 7:08:45 pm PST #7734 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

As someone pointed out above, we've placed our Stompies in a difficult position. I'd like to see people try and remember that and give them the benefit of the doubt. I'd like for everyone to be given the benefit of the doubt, of course, but especially the Stompies, and especially when we deal with particularly difficult issues.

Concur, and thank you for pointing that at Dana.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 15, 2003 7:48:55 pm PST #7735 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Jon-- I can post what posts at midnight.

That is I can post the voting thing.

Also

{{{{Stompies}}}}}

Ya'll did the right thing, and we love you!


Laura - Mar 15, 2003 8:50:36 pm PST #7736 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

I tested the latest ballot to see if the response was directed to my email for counting. It is working. Good night all.

Much love for the Stompies!