Let me try...
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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
Jon B. - Mar 12, 2003 9:45:50 pm PST #7374 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
John H - Mar 12, 2003 9:46:11 pm PST #7375 of 10001
It applied to the fact that Kafka, even pre-vote vote, was mainly frequented by a smallish number of people
I apologise.
I have got two different things mixed up, it seems.
Anyway.
saying "Hey! Consensus!" among that small number, with regards to the way we were thinking about doing something, was just as false a consensus
but what we consensed on doing was asking everyone what they thought. How could that possibly be considered the same kind of, let's say, "fake consensus" as the other kind?
Jon B. - Mar 12, 2003 9:48:11 pm PST #7376 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Nope. Won't work for me either. It submits, but doesn't show up in the list.
jengod - Mar 12, 2003 9:48:37 pm PST #7377 of 10001
Thread-build needed? What's up?
John H - Mar 12, 2003 9:48:44 pm PST #7378 of 10001
I think someone needs to talk to ita.
P.M. Marc - Mar 12, 2003 9:49:23 pm PST #7379 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
but what we consensed on doing was asking everyone what they thought. How could that possibly be considered the same kind of, let's say, "fake consensus" as the other kind?
Time frames here. My issue at the time was that using pref. voting "just the once", which was the issue at hand at the time for forming the proposal would weigh things in favor it becoming the standard. Just like I honestly think having a vote on voting ends up being a "well, of course we can vote, we're voting now!" issue.
Jon B. - Mar 12, 2003 9:49:44 pm PST #7380 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
We think it might be that Victor was in the middle of it and maybe only one person can do it at a time?
jengod - Mar 12, 2003 9:50:05 pm PST #7381 of 10001
Trying now.
John H - Mar 12, 2003 9:50:57 pm PST #7382 of 10001
OK, it exists -- I just posted in it. John H "X-treme Natter! We're trying this at home!" Mar 12, 2003 11:50:08 pm EST -- so it's just not showing up anywhere? Weird.
Edit because I posted the wrong link the first time.
DXMachina - Mar 12, 2003 9:56:11 pm PST #7383 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
Guys, for the record and because DXM isn't here, it was very clear in the original post that Ed was talking about stats for the whole thread, from the very first way before voting became a discussion topic, to end [at the time], of Bureaucracy. (And for that matter, as a point of interest, not a point of gripe and/or accusation.) His original stats and John H's stats aren't the same stats, not least because DXM has been away for probably 70% of this most recent discussion as John H quantified it.
Damn, I hate walking into the middle of conversations like this where I don't have a frelling clue as to what is going on. And it's late, so I'm not even going to get a chance to go back the 400 posts I just skipped over to find out why there was no natter thread until tomorrow morning. Maybe. At least I know where that is now. Thanks, John.