Honestly, all Go14 jokes aside, by my count there were 37 people with at least 10 posts on the subject. And more than half of those who turned out to vote had at least something to say. That's not so bad, really.

Or just, you know, make it clear at whom you are sticking your tongue out. Or something. OK.

Honestly, I thought the "so there." was enough to mark it as tongue-in-cheek. Perhaps adding a neener.

I knew what, and who, he meant. But I'd just counted down to find out my position on the list (13) so I knew where Plei was.

(Also, feeling a little pissy at being given the old talking-to when John gets a free pass.)

(Just saying.)

(If you want honesty and a lack of obfuscation.)

I'm sorry, Plei, I just felt like you were having a lot of issues with the way things are going, and I really was afraid you were talking about someone in particular, but didn't know who it was, and didn't want it to be me, is all. And, uh, John was busting on you, so if anyone was going to tell him off about it, it could have been you, no?

Yeah, sorry, but what did I get a free pass for?

And, uh, John was busting on you, so if anyone was going to tell him off about it, it could have been you, no?

Or not. I don't know, I mean, when I've felt people have maybe gone a little past pleasant with others in the past, I've spoken up.

Honestly, I don't like that the chart was posted. It seemed a little.. I don't know, it seemed possibley divisive to me to do so, at this point, when things had mostly calmed down. And I really was trying to be okay with the snide aside about myself, but I guess I'm really not. I mean, looking at numbers tells you nothing about content. It just tells you X people have posted X time, but not the topic, which can range from (and in that span did) "white font ASAP!" or "All threads should be Monkey!" to "I'm not comfortable here, forget it to "I think that we should use system X with a subset of system y and perhaps a smidge of system D". I don't really want a breakdown of that, either, in case anyone was planning to do so.

It just seemed kind of counterproductive to even put it up.

I think we're a little frayed, because I thought you were talking about me. I wish the stats hadn't been posted, because I felt we all were sort of getting over differences, but it was nice to see that more people articipated than I thought. Since we actually have the vote up, I'm pretty mcuh taking a break except for thread naming issues, etc, because I have certainly said enough.

I think we're a little frayed, because I thought you were talking about me.

See, I should have used a different member of the gang, like Zhang Chunqiao or Yao Wenyuan. Stoopid gender identifiers. It really wasn't directed at anyone so much as directed at a snark at me. I feel like Bart Simpson. I'll be on the blackboard writing "I will not make Cutural Revolution Jokes." a hundred times now.

I don't like that the chart was posted. It seemed a little.. I don't know, it seemed possibley divisive to me to do so, at this point, when things had mostly calmed down.

If I'd thought that anybody would take it that way, then I never would have done it.

I certainly didn't do that to have a go at you, I swear.

It was intended to deflate that "gang of fourteen" slur, which to me said "fourteen really boring people made life hell for the rest of us", which isn't true -- I mean, hence the Gangs of Arbitrary Number gag.

The truth is more interesting, and I think people don't mind hearing that.