Anya: We should drop a piano on her. It always works for that creepy cartoon rabbit when he's running from that nice man with the speech impediment. Giles: Yes, or perhaps we could paint a convincing fake tunnel on the side of a mountain.

'Touched'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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P.M. Marc - Mar 11, 2003 5:12:40 pm PST #7098 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Although there may be a Go14, the voting process yielded 100 votes. Often when I visit here someone has already made the points I see so I don't bother to post. I am not alone in that practice.

Yeah, which means that if you aren't one of the posters, you're not counted in consensus, and there was on the table the idea that there is now consensus for a specific type of voting.

edit: This one time, that is.


Jon B. - Mar 11, 2003 5:13:01 pm PST #7099 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I get the impression that the Go14 thing is part of the reason people get frustrated and leave the thread.

I don't mean this as a personal attack on anyone because lord knows I'm probably just as guilty of scaring people away as anyone, but I think the reason people get frustrated is that we're so bogged down in the minutia of the process, that we haven't been able to decide anything.

I have made a proposal on how to decide this next round of votes. I saw a lot of posts from people agreeing with my proposal, and very few from folks against it (I admit my perception may be colored). And I've seen no counter-proposal from those who are against it. Even some folks who are hesitant about using a preferential ballot have agreed to try it this one time. Can we just get this moving?


P.M. Marc - Mar 11, 2003 5:14:31 pm PST #7100 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Could you relink to your proposal?


Jon B. - Mar 11, 2003 5:15:30 pm PST #7101 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Could you relink to your proposal?

Just that we decide these two questions (that Sophia just restated) via preferential ballots.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 11, 2003 5:17:31 pm PST #7102 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I cannot sit through another preferential voting debate. Ever.

Are there any viable options on how to vote on 3 and 4?

My original idea was to try and come to a consensus of 2 numbers and vote on that, but I don't think we can do that.

Other ideas?

we have

1 preferentail.
2. runoff


DavidS - Mar 11, 2003 5:18:24 pm PST #7103 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

One of the Davids said Keep it Simple and we've gone way past that.

Yeah, I did. I like Laura's summation back a few posts.

Let's give the practical application approach a try. Let us do the preferential ballot on this go around and see if people are comfortable using it and understand how it tallies. Let us not get ahead of ourselves again.

Tight focus. Next step. Keep it simple. When we get the results we'll have a lot more to work with.


P.M. Marc - Mar 11, 2003 5:18:37 pm PST #7104 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Just that we decide these two questions (that Sophia just restated) via preferential ballots.

But it seems that the only other option would be a run-off, so I don't see where there's a need for a secondary proposal other than "preferential or run-off to decide on min. number of voters, etc."


DavidS - Mar 11, 2003 5:21:08 pm PST #7105 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What's the problem with questions 3 and 4?

We run up a set of sequential numbers for each one and see how that comes out with preferential voting, no?


Sophia Brooks - Mar 11, 2003 5:21:49 pm PST #7106 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

But it seems that the only other option would be a run-off
Oh thank god! Because I felt like people were saying there were other options and I just wasn't seeing them. I still think that to do a runoff we would have to separate the 2 questions in #4.

I don't understand the rest of your sentance, though. I am sorry.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 11, 2003 5:22:56 pm PST #7107 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

We run up a set of sequential numbers for each one and see how that comes out with preferential voting, no?

The question is that people are thinking there is no consensus about whether or not to try pref voting just this once.