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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


§ ita § - Mar 04, 2003 3:43:57 pm PST #6821 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

In full honesty, supramajority lost unfairly. It might also lose fairly, and I REALLY don't want extra voting, but I just thought it should be stated for the record.


Jon B. - Mar 04, 2003 3:54:04 pm PST #6822 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

the phrasing as it stands is a little leading.

Grrrrr... I knew someone would say this and cloud the glow I had for the last five minutes. To be honest, I thought my wording of both options was leading. I think I made the first option sound more bureaucratically cumbersome than it really is. I did this on purpose and I stand by it.

Anyhoo, I'm heading home and should be able to check in again in an hour or so. I plan to enjoy the glow I have left until then.


Steph L. - Mar 04, 2003 4:02:51 pm PST #6823 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

That's in the FAQ.

And it's pretty fricken hilarious. There was that part about force-feeding a lamp electrons, or setting it on fire.

No -- the electron/fire thing is in the BRQG, but it isn't in the FAQ. It was me and Gudanov having a flame war, if you will, which happened much later than the original "How Many Buffistas" lightbulb thing.


brenda m - Mar 04, 2003 4:12:27 pm PST #6824 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I'm fine with Jon's suggestion, if it'll get us out of this mire. Midnight tonight?


§ ita § - Mar 04, 2003 4:15:36 pm PST #6825 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

vote(s)@buffistas.org has been pointed to Nilly's profile address, language has been approved. Who will take responsibility for posting the announcement?


Burrell - Mar 04, 2003 4:19:02 pm PST #6826 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

This is sounding more and more to me like a new vote, not a poll.

Here's my suggestion for the voting (to avoid both leading language and a potential second vote). Thanks to brenda for the original post:

VOTE 1: How are we defining majority?

A) One option must receive a majority (50% + 1) of votes cast. If no option receives a majority, no action will result.

B) Option receiving the most votes wins, regardless of whether they constitute a majority as defined above (a plurality, in other words).

Note: vote has two options, majority or plurality.

Vote 2: How would we decide on a majority in those cases where more than two options are required? A) If no option receives a majority, a run-off between the top two finishers will occur.

B) Preferential voting should be implemented so that one option receives the required majority. [Link to brief explanation, e.g. John's chart]

Note: vote has two options, run-off or preferential.


§ ita § - Mar 04, 2003 4:26:46 pm PST #6827 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If no option receives a majority, a run-off between the top two finishers will occur

I think "two" should be made more general in case there's a tie for second place.


Jon B. - Mar 04, 2003 4:35:13 pm PST #6828 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I'm back.

How would we decide on a majority in those cases where more than two options are required?

But some folks have suggested that we do this vote by vote.

This is going round and round. I suggested some wording. It received 4 seconds. Can't we just go with it and get the basic question decided?


Gandalfe - Mar 04, 2003 4:55:49 pm PST #6829 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Burrell: The problem with yours is that there seems to be an assumption that Option 2 in vote 1 will win. If Option 1 wins, then the point is moot.

I like Jon's Ballot, although, to satisfy those who voted Supermajority, I'd add another question:

Item 2

Would a clearer definition of Simple Majority have affected your vote last week? (Perhaps with a link to the previous question.)
A) Yes
B) No


Jon B. - Mar 04, 2003 5:08:17 pm PST #6830 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I don't understand the purpose of asking that question, Gandalfe. What do we do with the answer?