This money, it is too much. You should have some small refund.

Niska ,'War Stories'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Katie M - Mar 03, 2003 5:08:04 pm PST #6380 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

I think part of my gut-level desire to just have Most Votes Wins, Dammit is a desire not to get caught up in, er, bureaucracy. You know? It just seems like overkill, and I say that as someone who strongly supports the idea of voting in the first place as a way to set down rules rather than trying to get consensus.

It's just... I mean, we're not the Founding Parents here, you know? We're just trying to set up a simple system to deal with procedural issues.

(It's also probably partly that, being American and not from one of those fancy-pants academic towns with funky systems, my default assumption is Most Votes Takes All. So I think of that as the way that's fair, even if it's not optimal.)


Katie M - Mar 03, 2003 5:08:41 pm PST #6381 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Oh, and also? If none of you would've thought of this if I hadn't brought it up, I'm really, really sorry.


§ ita § - Mar 03, 2003 5:09:42 pm PST #6382 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If none of you would've thought of this if I hadn't brought it up, I'm really, really sorry.

Aha!

points kravvy finger


Wolfram - Mar 03, 2003 5:09:45 pm PST #6383 of 10001
Visilurking

This discussion is really making deathmatch a much more attractive alternative.


Katie M - Mar 03, 2003 5:16:24 pm PST #6384 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

points kravvy finger

Oh, shit. t flees


John H - Mar 03, 2003 5:16:44 pm PST #6385 of 10001

Am I the only one who thinks having a long, detailed, sometimes-academic discussion isn't a wholly negative thing, thinks it's not an UnBuffistan thing to do?

Am I also the one thinking that people saying "oh dear, a very long detailed discussion about voting, I don't like it, we should just try and achieve consensus..." are saying something kind of illogical?

Trying to achieve consensus, that's what's happening now. The long detailed discussion thing.

Wow, maybe I've just convinced myself I'm against voting altogether. Because voting would cut this process way short... and I love everyone's commitment to this place and the energy they put into it.


PaulJ - Mar 03, 2003 5:18:06 pm PST #6386 of 10001

Am I the only one who thinks having a long, detailed, sometimes-academic discussion isn't a wholly negative thing, thinks it's not an UnBuffistan thing to do?

Speaking just for myself, it's one thing to have long and involved debates about the meaning of a soul in the Buffyverse, and another one to have long and involved debates about administrivia.


§ ita § - Mar 03, 2003 5:18:57 pm PST #6387 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Because voting would cut this process way short...

Voting would cut this process to under 4 days. Short? I'm not feeling that's short.

Mostly, right now, I just want to know who meant what by "simple majority". I already voted against this, and perhaps that's my my eyes are hurty.


John H - Mar 03, 2003 5:21:04 pm PST #6388 of 10001

Mostly, right now, I just want to know who meant what by "simple majority".

I think I agree.

Ironically, we have had our first vote and it seems a significant number of people didn't understand the ballot.

For a start, I seem to have voted for some guy called "Pat Buchanan" and I don't even know who he is...


amych - Mar 03, 2003 5:21:12 pm PST #6389 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I meant 50%+1 by "majority".