Looks good Jesse!

The part about item 4 is that it is really 2 questions.

1. Do we need seconds?

2. How the heck do we decide what we vote on. For example, on my list, I don't think we need to vote on whether or not we need an HTML page listing items that have come up for vote and can't be proposed right now. Or on a Marcie.

Also, I may have missed something on my list -- have we discussed the waiting period for how long after a vote until something can be proposed again.

Also, I may have missed something on my list -- have we discussed the waiting period for how long after a vote until something can be proposed again.

6 months was bandied about.

Yeah, 6 months was bandied about. I think we already have 6 items, really, and that seems like almost too many already.

I'm wondering if the second ballot might need links back to the discussion. People might not understand all the issues or reasons why we think a separate discussion thread would be better than just keeping things in bureaucracy. I'm thinking we're starting to move away from obvious/intuitive kind of votes. Maybe we could have links to summary posts - one pro, one con. Just a thought.

My only proposal is that we call it anything but the Supreme Court thread, because of issues with making sense. That is all.

How about "The Council of Watchers" thread, just to remind us that we only want to go there as a last resort.

Some other possibilities: Thunderdome (two arguments go in, one comes out); The Cruciamentum; The Thread Decisive; Administrative Smackdown; Blah Blah Intensive; Speed Chess for Umwieldy Decisions; Open and Close; The Council of Blabber.

The Council of Blabber.

This!!

Also, the ballot could be fleshed out a little more, with the basic pros and cons, I guess.

I think we also need to decide when the voting periods are going to start. I would suggest that we have set days for discussion/voting during the week. For example, every Monday would be the opening of discussion on issues, and every Friday through Sunday would be the voting days (with allowance for absentee ballots for those who have no internet access on those days.) Any new issues raised during the week would be able to be discussed the following Monday in the discussion thread (if opened) or "officially discussed" in Bureaucracy, and all items set for vote can be on one ballot whose content will be formalized during the discussion period.

I think having the same days of the week for discussions and voting will make it easier on members to know what's going on. It will also prevent scenarios where Clem is Hott discussion starts Wednesday with voting on Sunday; Lorne is Purty discussion starts Saturday with voting on Wednesday; and changing the url from Buffistas to Angelistas post-Buffy series finale discussion starts Sunday with voting on Thursday. This way all three proposals could be discussed on the first Monday after the proposal has been approved for discussion (through seconds or whatever method) and voting could take place every Friday through the weekend. Yset-days-of-the-weekMV.

I think we also need to decide when the voting periods are going to start.

This strikes me as WAY overthinking. We start a voting period when somebody says "Time to vote!" and everybody says "Okay". And a new issue starts being discussed when somebody raises is, not the following Monday.

We need some process. We don't need large-corporation levels of process.

Although I was initially attracted to the order in Wolfram's suggestion, I think it presupposes a LOT of discussion and voting. Which is what i am trying to avoid. I know I talk a lot in here, but it is exhausting and is taking aay my time and energy for other threads.

I am hoping we go through this round and maybe 1 or 2 more to decide all the stuff that came up in WX.

Then, maybe we won't have to discuss or vote or think for a good long while.

I'm with Betsy. Also, Friday-Saturday-Sunday only voting is fine when it happens to come up, but as regular voting days, they're the most likely to catch people out any time there's a long weekend.

I am hoping we go through this round and maybe 1 or 2 more to decide all the stuff that came up in WX.

Then, maybe we won't have to discuss or vote or think for a good long while.

Ditto.