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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


John H - Mar 02, 2003 3:50:38 pm PST #6128 of 10001

I say you continue just as you are, shrift. This is yet one more example where people ought to be able to figure out from context, by osmosis, or by reading, as has been pointed out, clear onscreen instructions, what the deal is.


Jon B. - Mar 02, 2003 4:12:22 pm PST #6129 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Should we consider the possibility of having sidebarred threads' long blurbs visible on all pages?

I like this idea, too.


Gandalfe - Mar 02, 2003 4:34:25 pm PST #6130 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

This is yet one more example where people ought to be able to figure out from context, by osmosis, or by reading, as has been pointed out, clear onscreen instructions, what the deal is.

But, as has been pointed out, the "clear onscreen instructions" aren't actually on the screen when those posts appear. Berating (and, it seems to me, insulting) people for not figuring something out immediately is not just counter productive, but rude as well.

Understand me, I appreciate the scripts. But I think that the situation has been handled poorly, and some of the insinuations that have been made, are, well, inappropriate.

Should we consider the possibility of having sidebarred threads' long blurbs visible on all pages?

Either on the side, or on the top of the thread. Either way would work well, I think, particularly for these threads with specific rules that differ (greatly) from the rest of the board.


Jon B. - Mar 02, 2003 4:40:19 pm PST #6131 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Maybe I'm desensitized or something, but I didn't see any berating. Where was there berating? I thought folks were just stating the rules.


Jessica - Mar 02, 2003 4:49:53 pm PST #6132 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

But, as has been pointed out, the "clear onscreen instructions" aren't actually on the screen when those posts appear.

It is neither Shrift's responsibility nor her obligation to include the instructions in her posts, especially considering the nature of the site being linked to.

But that's fairly irrelevant, since the original point being made was simply that Press is a no-discussion zone, and if people had questions, they should be asking them elsewhere.


Gandalfe - Mar 02, 2003 4:53:00 pm PST #6133 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

since the original point being made was simply that Press is a no-discussion zone,

But MY point is that it doesn't say anywhere on the screen that it's a no discussion zone!


shrift - Mar 02, 2003 4:56:01 pm PST #6134 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

But, as has been pointed out, the "clear onscreen instructions" aren't actually on the screen when those posts appear.

I understand that, Gandalfe, and what I'm trying to do is figure out a way to make the announcements more clear without exposing myself to trouble.

I apologize if I've come across as rude. I didn't intend to be, but I'm the only one at the risk in this equation, and lately I've found the high profile of this site to be more and more worrisome.

Since I seem to be unintentionally insulting people simply by being intentionally vague, that just puts another check in the "stop posting the announcements" column.


Jessica - Mar 02, 2003 4:59:34 pm PST #6135 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

But MY point is that it doesn't say anywhere on the screen that it's a no discussion zone!

Am I wrong in thinking that the registration email contains instructions to read the etiquette guide? (Can a Stompy answer this?)

Really, I don't think "know the posting rules for threads you want to post in" is an unreasonable or rude request to make of anyone.


Gandalfe - Mar 02, 2003 4:59:49 pm PST #6136 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

BTW, I agree that Shrift doesn't need to post specifics about the rules of the thread, because, well, duh. Otherwise, everyone would have to post the rules, and we'd all get really bitch.


Gandalfe - Mar 02, 2003 5:02:27 pm PST #6137 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Ah. I'm seeing the confusion. I'm not referring to shrift's site when I'm talking about the clear instructions. I'm only talking about the fact that the rules for the Press thread are not actually shown on the page, unless you feel like scrolling back several hundred posts.

My apologies for the mistake.

Shrift, I didn't mean at any point to suggest that I thought you were the one being rude, and I'm sorry if you got that impression.