If all eight hundred Buffistas turn up to the vote thread and 750 just go away again without voting, how will we know we had quoracy?
I don't see any reason we can't continue like we're doing now -- submit your abstention.
Strong like an Amazon.
Tara ,'Storyteller'
Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier
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§ ita § - Feb 26, 2003 10:21:10 pm PST #5686 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Rebecca Lizard - Feb 26, 2003 10:25:13 pm PST #5687 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket
quoracy
Now you're just trying to provoke someone.
(I'm sorry! I'm sorry! Natter. I'm leaving.)
John H - Feb 26, 2003 10:27:38 pm PST #5688 of 10001
I don't see any reason we can't continue like we're doing now -- submit your abstention.
Oh absolutely, but that's not my point. If people don't even bother to abstain, we don't have quoracy. Or we don't know we do.
I can hardly believe I'm writing this, but we may have to convince people how important it is to show up and vote "I don't care".
jengod - Feb 26, 2003 10:28:44 pm PST #5689 of 10001
joss is never going to show up and vote i don't care. neither is tim or fury or about 300 people who registered after joss posted. neither is...
there are a heck of a lot of empty registrations and THAT'S FINE.
§ ita § - Feb 26, 2003 10:29:05 pm PST #5690 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
If people don't even bother to abstain, we don't have quoracy. Or we don't know we do.
But I want to be able to either register my presence and abstain officially, or just not be any part of it. So I'll vote ABSTAIN if I'm making the point, or stay mum if I'm leaving the stuff to others.
John H - Feb 26, 2003 10:29:25 pm PST #5691 of 10001
Now you're just trying to provoke someone.
It's a word! What's your option, I-blame-noah-webster-girl? "Quorateness"? "Quoraciousness"? "Quoraciosity"?
jengod - Feb 26, 2003 10:30:22 pm PST #5692 of 10001
We currently have 110 voting members. It was recently reported that we'd added user 800. Therefore we currently have about 14% of our population actively engaged in the site during (the last/a) 24-hour period. We'll see how we do by the end of the voting cycle.
Michele T. - Feb 26, 2003 10:31:51 pm PST #5693 of 10001
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi
Some small percentage of that 800 is double registrations, right? There are the people who have a separate id for Sang Sacre?
brenda m - Feb 26, 2003 10:33:18 pm PST #5694 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
No, of course not. But if we discuss an issue and 30 people vote, but the quorum is set at 50, it's invalid. But if there were another 30 people who had followed the discussion but didn't feel they had anything invested in the outcome, those people only show up if they abstain. Now, you can argue that if there's that little interest even among people bothering to cast a vote, it shouldn't go through anyway (and I lean towards this position). But counting abstentions does provide information you don't otherwise have.
Whether to allow for abstaining votes on most questions is something I think we need to discuss further. It may be better to include that option only in a case like this, where there is more than one question being put forward.
I'd say at a guess that we've probably got about 200 or so mostly active posters - those are going to be the most likely voters, as well. And that's fine.
Rebecca Lizard - Feb 26, 2003 10:33:50 pm PST #5695 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket
Well, like, if they don't care themselves whether Cindy gets her CINDI'N'VIGO4EVEH thread, or they haven't made up their mind yet; but they think it's something that ought to be voted on, just not by them. They're saying it's something they think the community really ought to seriously consider and think about. And if the abstentions are bigger than anything else, then it's the people saying it's somethign the community needs to think more about-- it's not ready for a vote yet, not with those options, at least.
In my mind. At the moment.