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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Laura - Feb 26, 2003 1:31:26 pm PST #5663 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

x% will not be interested in voting, x% haven't been around today, x% won't ever be back cause we scared them off. I think 85 that quickly is quite impressive.


Liese S. - Feb 26, 2003 2:26:33 pm PST #5664 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Hey guys. Checking in from my snowbound hotel room. Just wanted to say that despite my dissent, I deeply appreciate all of you and your civil conversations.


John H - Feb 26, 2003 3:29:14 pm PST #5665 of 10001

Just to confirm for the record that both my wife and Sydney, Australia are both beautiful.

But that's natter. So I'll see you there.


Cindy - Feb 26, 2003 4:39:57 pm PST #5666 of 10001
Nobody

Liese - you can vote "no" to voting and get your dissent to count. Also, Jon set up a nifty form.


jengod - Feb 26, 2003 8:14:00 pm PST #5667 of 10001

Okay, this is either a really stupid question or a big deal or both.

Are we counting abstentions by people who otherwise voted? We aren't counting Buffistas who are not part of the electorate, but if someone abstains from voting for one of the propositions, do we eliminate their vote or count it as a third option.

100 people (let's not even make them Buffistas, because of the quorum issue) vote on a proposition.

50 - yes
25 - no
25 - abstain

Is the result:

50 (50%) - yes
25 (25%) - no
25 (25%) - abstain

or

50 (66%) - yes
25 (33%) - no

(Gosh I hope that makes sense.)


Rebecca Lizard - Feb 26, 2003 8:26:52 pm PST #5668 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

It makes sense to me.

And I think it should be counted as a third option. Like the difference between "I don't want to vote for either of these Presidential candidates" and "I couldn't be arsed to leave the house and vote today" some countries let you register.


Java cat - Feb 26, 2003 8:28:50 pm PST #5669 of 10001
Not javachik

Ditto everything amych & other said. Big thanks.

I'm still reading ... suggestion to put Sophia's nillies into Nillytown, or Press? They will be relatively buried here, eventually, and hard(er) to find without search, but relatively easy to post in one or the other now?


Sean K - Feb 26, 2003 8:28:50 pm PST #5670 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I think the abstentions should be counted too.

Like your math shows, including the abstentions is the difference between the yes votes having a majority or a plurality.

It makes democracy much messier, but more representative.

(just my $0.02)


Sophia Brooks - Feb 26, 2003 8:31:20 pm PST #5671 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I would think ( and Gar probably knows, as he know about voting) that the yes and no votes are the only ones that count as percentages, but the abstaines get tallied and published.

so:

100 Buffistas

50 Yes 66.7% 25 No 33.3% 25 Abstain.

Again, I am totally talking out of my ass. (I think Abstains would count toward a quorum, but not the majority)


Jon B. - Feb 26, 2003 8:37:28 pm PST #5672 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

For this vote, why does it matter how you count them? Aren't things being decided by simple majority?