Kaylee: Is that him? Mal: That's the buffet table. Kaylee: Well how can we be sure, unless we question it?

'Shindig'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


John H - Feb 26, 2003 6:53:57 am PST #5617 of 10001

Hey Laura, nice to see you again too. We've seen lots of nice places, and lots of places we can afford ... but they're never the same place.


billytea - Feb 26, 2003 7:13:55 am PST #5618 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Hey John, how's things? Tell me Sydney's beautiful.


Wolfram - Feb 26, 2003 7:24:52 am PST #5619 of 10001
Visilurking

Welcome back John.

Okay, this is the first time I've ever had to threadsuck bureaucracy.

I think I voted right, but I didn't get a ballot confirmation so jengod, could you let me know that I did it right when you get a chance?

I have to admit that after reading items 2 & 3 regarding quorum, majority and simple majority, I am a little confused as to the synergy of these two items. But maybe that's just me.


Jesse - Feb 26, 2003 7:32:34 am PST #5620 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

YAY you guys! What great stuff to wake up to! (Seriously, I love process.)

And no, even if I think it's important, I bail if it goes on too long, or comes around too often. Because, really, it stops being worth it, when you tally time and effort and sometimes blood pressure.

I'm with ita on this one. And I do hope that if a lot of people think we don't need to vote, they will vote this one time, and then we'll know.

And to repeat most of what amych said:

Whatever the result of this vote, I want to thank Jon for the form (I just used it, and it was fucking great), Cindy for drafting the ballot, jengod the tallymistress for going where no Florida board of elections dares to tread, Sophia for general organizational godliness, and especially, everyone who's sustained a generally civil, thorough, well-reasoned, and always Buffista-worthy discussion about the deepest level of bureaucratic nitty-gritty. I can't remember another organization I've been in where this kind of stuff hasn't made me roll my eyes and want to throw pointy things at my fellow members.

I have no idea what'll happen when the votes are in. Maybe we'll go back to the way we've always done things; maybe we'll go on to other votes; maybe we'll call a constitutional convention and and then I'll want to throw things. Doesn't matter.

What matters is that right now, I'm happy as hell with this community. A lot of the vague ill-feeling I had before the WX break has dissipated. Even if it's just one vote, we've done something right.


Dana - Feb 26, 2003 7:34:30 am PST #5621 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

What Jesse said that amych said. To shorten, thanks to Jon, Cindy, jengod, Sophia, everyone who's sustained a generally civil, thorough, well-reasoned, and always Buffista-worthy discussion about the deepest level of bureaucratic nitty-gritty, and ita.


Sophia Brooks - Feb 26, 2003 7:34:57 am PST #5622 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Oh-- and thanks Jesse (and david and Gar and Laura and Elena and ita) who were around last night to help see to the posting (I think that was the late night crew.

I don't know what to say about the quorum/majority. i find it confusing, too. I had to have it explained to me about 45 times.


Nilly - Feb 26, 2003 7:39:26 am PST #5623 of 10001
Swouncing

What Jesse said that amych said. To shorten, thanks to Jon, Cindy, jengod, Sophia, everyone who's sustained a generally civil, thorough, well-reasoned, and always Buffista-worthy discussion about the deepest level of bureaucratic nitty-gritty, and ita.

What Dana said. t /still catching up - this is one discussion I insist on reading through


Jesse - Feb 26, 2003 7:40:41 am PST #5624 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Big ups to the spammers, too!


juliana - Feb 26, 2003 7:40:56 am PST #5625 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

To go even more meta, what Nilly said.

I voted, and I hope I did it right. Either way, it was a pleasure.


DavidS - Feb 26, 2003 7:50:33 am PST #5626 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What matters is that right now, I'm happy as hell with this community. A lot of the vague ill-feeling I had before the WX break has dissipated. Even if it's just one vote, we've done something right.

I feel this way too. I feel like we took an active and positive and difficult step to deal with the things which were causing dissatisfaction in our community. I feel better about us. I forgot to thank jengod! And she's doing all the grunt work.