Trudy, if it is a small bunch of people with the anti-issue, it'll come out in the vote, and what's the loss?

Nothing wrong with voting per se, but there is the implication of "it's broken" by having the vote if there isn't much discussion to the contrary.

So I'm being contrary ;-)

Honestly, by the third time something I was against comes up, I bow out because I feel like a harpy. Which is also what I feel like when I'm agitating for something I'm pro.

If it's something you think is hugely significant you'd stay in, wouldn't you?

Trudy-- I am also thinking of it (and the WX thread tells a better story of how we moved into this than this thread, IMO.) as us argueing to a consensus, and then voting to make sure that no one is misreading the consensus.

Yeah, I lurked over in WX (well, caught up because my schedule didn't happen to agree with the discussion time) and I think a lot of the discussion over there was people really venting. I think we needed to vent (and that the tabling the issue for a few days was a good call). I think the current calmer is better and, well, more Buffista.

Just taking the opportunity to a) say that I think we have been successful as is; b) see who agrees with me; and c) suggest that it's the time frame that needs addressing rather than the method it's self.

I just hit the quotables thread.

And thanks for your PoV, Trudy. I think it's important to hear opinions from as many Buffistas as possible.

I just suffered from premature tabulation. Unless that was midnight Eastern time.

Okay, I thought it was board time.

Midnight board time, actually.

So, what time is board time? I thought the time on the posts (EST) is board time. I've always thought that. That's the time on the posts.

t /confused

Board Time is Eastern Time is the Time on your posts.

I am Nillying the WX discussion.

I just added "Board Time" to Sophia's Press post. I'll update the form in a moment.

t edit Whoops! Didn't realize you were still up, Sophia. I really am the stompy from hell today.

Nilly of the WX discussion

ita poses a question about general discontent:

[link]

This is followed by 500 addition posts, so if you don't want to read all of them:

1. We discuss the 'Buffists Island mentality and also "what we miss" .

2. Jim makes a point about nostalgia: [link]

3. Nutty talks about holding 2 opinions at once. [link]

4. We all bitch some more and jengod has a proposal: [link]

5. Beverly talks about Marcie: [link]

6. David mentions consensus and banning procedures: [link]

7.ita challenges us to find the real problem: [link]

8. Jengod has more proposals [link] Lower on the page, Suela talks about when she avoid bureacracy and David reiterates his stand on our banning policy.

9. David on Banning againand ita rebuts: [link]

10: hayden puts in his 2 cents: [link]

11. David S. says "We're Buffistas. Let's Be Buffistas" [link]

12: The we talk about archiving:

13: Kat responds to me, responding to her dissatisfaction with the bureacracy thread [link] A fairly long and interesting discussion follows.

14. David responds: [link]

15. David S. takes us back to Bureacracy. [link]

16. Tom Warin chimes in: [link]

17. Beth posts calmly: [link]

18: Jim suggests "whuffie" an d there is a surge of support, which dies by the end of the day: [link]

edit-- more to come

OMG, Jon, you couldn't be the ANYTHING from hell if you tried all day with a tazer and a Johnny Depp video.