Whip is so much better than Speaker.
It's the most fun ever. Also, I like the implied "infliction of pain" factor. It speaks to me.
Jayne: There's times I think you don't take me seriously. I think that ought to change. Mal: Do you think it's likely to?
'Our Mrs. Reynolds'
Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
Kristen - Feb 24, 2003 1:24:02 pm PST #5209 of 10001
brenda m - Feb 24, 2003 1:26:50 pm PST #5210 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Or, conversely, if everyone pretty much agreed right away, you could motion to vote at the end of the first or second day. Okay, I like this.
Well, the problem with this is that the few days for discussion isn't so much to generate a certain number of posts or viewpoints as to ensure that everyone has a reasonable chance of being here for the discussion. I think three days should be sufficient - but perhaps for really major or contentious stuff it could be extended.
Wolfram - Feb 24, 2003 1:29:19 pm PST #5211 of 10001
Visilurking
What's the danger with overlapping the voting with the discussion? That way people who need more discussion time can have it and not have to vote until the last day. I see that nobody seems to think this is a good idea and I'm curious as to why that is.
Sophia Brooks - Feb 24, 2003 1:30:32 pm PST #5212 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
What's the danger with overlapping the voting with the discussion? That way people who need more discussion time can have it and not have to vote until the last day. I see that nobody seems to think this is a good idea and I'm curious as to why that is.
To me it seems messy. a) Buffistas could talk forever with no limit and b) what if I voted and then someone changed my mind.
Wolfram - Feb 24, 2003 1:31:58 pm PST #5213 of 10001
Visilurking
To me it seems messy. a) Buffistas could talk forever with no limit and b) what if I voted and then someone changed my mind.
a) the discussion would end when the votes did b) don't read the discussions post-vote or implement a way to change votes. What if you change you mind after voting if there was no discussion?
bon bon - Feb 24, 2003 1:32:09 pm PST #5214 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
What's the danger with overlapping the voting with the discussion? That way people who need more discussion time can have it and not have to vote until the last day. I see that nobody seems to think this is a good idea and I'm curious as to why that is.
I think the intent of the discussion is at least to change some people's vote. And the proposal may change in the interim. Although I do like the efficiency; perhaps the last day of discussion could also open up voting. I dunno that the third day (say) would change that many votes.
Jesse - Feb 24, 2003 1:32:59 pm PST #5215 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
To me it seems messy. a) Buffistas could talk forever with no limit and b) what if I voted and then someone changed my mind.
Ditto.
I like the idea of being able to add another day or two onto a three-day discussion period, but not voting any sooner than that.
Also? WHIP!!!
amych - Feb 24, 2003 1:39:33 pm PST #5216 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
I think the intent of the discussion is at least to change some people's vote. And the proposal may change in the interim.
Yes, and yes.
What about a week for the issue, in total; 4 days' discussion followed by 3 days' voting. That way, unless there's a holiday weekend, there should always be both weekday and weekend access to both discussion and voting.
It's not that I'm wedded to a week for each, in spite of my earlier protests. But I'm against making either time period only a day or two, and even more against cutting off discussions early with an apparent early consensus -- I worry that it'll be too easy to say "do we all agree? okay? let's start voting" when there are only a few people around.
Also? WHIP!!!
Gawd, y'all are so porny. I'm shocked!
Jesse - Feb 24, 2003 1:42:16 pm PST #5217 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I worry that it'll be too easy to say "do we all agree? okay? let's start voting" when there are only a few people around.
That's exactly the problem we've been having already. "OK?" "OK!"
Lyra Jane - Feb 24, 2003 1:43:35 pm PST #5218 of 10001
Up with the sun
Consider the ending discussion early proposal tabula rasa'ed. I see why it's a bad idea now.