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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Am-Chau Yarkona - Feb 17, 2003 10:02:51 am PST #4513 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

I'm going to try and keep this brief.

I am in favour of a place to discuss the international tensions (troop movements, military action) which will not make people feel uncomfortable about doing so. If we create a thread to make that space, I'm in favour of not calling it "The War Thread". I would probably read it, and if I felt I had something to say I would probably post. I hope that it would be more about the effects of military action on Buffistas personally, whether physically or emotionally, rather than about the grand sweeps of politics. On the other hand, I fully expect normal Buffista thread drift- to be moderated by the high standards of politeness, tolerance, and friendship that Buffistas maintain.


askye - Feb 17, 2003 10:18:38 am PST #4514 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

I did a search on my own name a while back, I'm not sure why but it was a random thing. I don't remember there being a link to the Buffistas in the mix though.


jengod - Feb 17, 2003 11:38:37 am PST #4515 of 10001

I change my vote. I oppose a War Thread on the grounds that there are many many many other places to discuss foreign policy and politics. We're not Table Talk. We're Buffistas. We're more culture-y, pop and otherwise.


Consuela - Feb 17, 2003 11:56:25 am PST #4516 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I think... I think I'm with Jengod. We're not an all-purpose board, we're an arts-and-pop-culture board, with a fair amount of socializing. And while the war is going to have an impact on our lives, I am afraid that segregating the conversation outside of Natter will encourage a type of behavior in that thread that isn't common to this community.

I'm also sure that whatever gets discussed in that new thread would bleed over into the other threads, and since we know the war would be discussed everywhere, the way such things are, why set up a new thread to contain it? We know it won't.

Also, the troll issue, which others have mentioned. The political climate here is strongly left/progressive (no offense intended to the community members who aren't of that persuasion), and I think we'd be seen as a prime target for trollers who are both strongly to the right and not possessed of the kind of civility we cherish here. Even having the thread title not reference the war directly wouldn't keep them out forever.

Does that make sense? In any event, I don't expect to read the thread. I'm floating down the river in Egypt.


Lee - Feb 17, 2003 12:27:07 pm PST #4517 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I agree with the no war thread group. Like Schmoker, I won't go in anyway, but I do think it would cause problems.


Susan W. - Feb 17, 2003 12:28:50 pm PST #4518 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I'm for a war thread, because I want those of us who want to talk about it to be able to do so freely, while allowing those who don't to avoid it.


Gandalfe - Feb 17, 2003 12:35:58 pm PST #4519 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

This post didn't turn out well. Deleted.


David J. Schwartz - Feb 17, 2003 12:57:54 pm PST #4520 of 10001
New, fully poseable Author!Knut.

I'm opposed to a War Thread, under any name, for the reasons others have mentioned. I think this is a Pandora's Box. It seems to me these discussions should be possible to conduct in Natter, and if they aren't, it just proves that a thread would be a bad idea.


Dana - Feb 17, 2003 12:58:35 pm PST #4521 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

For those who are in favor, is it because you want a place to talk about it, or because you're concerned that it'll take over Natter?


Susan W. - Feb 17, 2003 1:07:06 pm PST #4522 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

For me, because I want a safe place to talk about it--i.e. a supportive environment, which more politically oriented boards generally aren't.