Can't even shout, Can't even cry. The Gentlemen are coming by. Looking in windows, knocking on doors. They need to take seven, and they might take yours. Can't call to mom, can't say a word. You're gonna die screaming but you won't be heard.

Dream Girl ,'Bring On The Night'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Cindy - Feb 17, 2003 8:54:04 am PST #4501 of 10001
Nobody

If we just name it What Is It Good For, it may help us hide it from people googling for a place to argue the war. (I mean "hide" in a good way - as in it's something I think we might want to do.) I'd approach the thread (and I think Buffistas in general would approach the thread) as a place for discussion as opposed to fighting. So although I know we're kind of against voting on a name for this, I'd just like to support msbelle's suggestion.

eta - That was a cool number, by accident, too.


amych - Feb 17, 2003 8:57:21 am PST #4502 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I really like "What is it good for" as a title. It makes it clear what the thread's about, it implies the tone a lot of seem to want, and it'll be google-proof. You know, should anyone be crazy enough to google "Freddie Prinze slash +war"


Megan E. - Feb 17, 2003 8:59:03 am PST #4503 of 10001

Go monkey! Choose monkey!

Seeing this comment mixed in with the war thread discussions really threw me. Sometimes skimming can cause intense brain blips.


Anathema - Feb 17, 2003 9:02:29 am PST #4504 of 10001
Jonathan Will Always Be My Hero

I think it's possible, but I think we would need to go into it with the understanding that if someone got too political or argumentative they would be deleted.

You have not even opened the thread yet, and I am thinking this is a really, really bad idea.

Most of you know how I post. Worrying about someone getting all excited by my posts isn't generally part of my thought process. But that's because they are about a television show.

You all are talking about starting a thread for the most serious and personal discussion topic of all time. Dark Magic, people. You should know by know that never works out well.

God knows I won't go it in there. Not certain how I could even begin to phrase any post so that it would be offensive to no one. Even saying "I'm in favor of the war" or "I'm against it" will likely piss off some people.

Of course, no me in there might mean a lot less hooliganism, so that's probably a good thing. Still, I think a War Thread wouldn't need me in there in order to be a freaky place to hang out on a snowy Sunday. Why not open up an Abortion Thread while you are at it? And how about Election 2000: The Rehash?

But maybe you all have done this before and it worked out fine. If so, more power to you, and I won't be come in and screw it up for you. I'll just hang out in Angel and post my odes to WesLah, or hang out in Firefly and cry, cry, cry all the way home.


Laura - Feb 17, 2003 9:06:53 am PST #4505 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

War thread. I think it should be created because it would be helpful to have a Buffista safe place to vent, comfort and discuss. I don't want to think about a title. I'm still in a "I wish we didn't have to think about this" place.


Cindy - Feb 17, 2003 9:08:36 am PST #4506 of 10001
Nobody

Schmoker - I think most Buffistas who are in a place where they can't discuss it in the Buffista way, will make the choice you're making up front. I'm not saying there will never be tension, but it's not as if we'd forbid the topic in Natter. I see the War thread as a way to keep Natter an emotionally safe zone for people who don't want to discuss it, ever, yet give a forum to people who need to discuss it.


Anathema - Feb 17, 2003 9:10:37 am PST #4507 of 10001
Jonathan Will Always Be My Hero

Cindy, it just seems like a really bad omen that we are talking about deleting posts before the thread even opens.


Cindy - Feb 17, 2003 9:25:52 am PST #4508 of 10001
Nobody

Only one poster had proposed deleting posts. For the record, I'm against it. There are ways to hold and air opposing view points in an argument, without being nasty. If/when someone is nasty, he or she should be called on it. I think we're a sensitive, sensible and polite group of people, but I don't think we're delicate hot-house flowers that need to be sheltered and really prevented from discussing a topic. The guidelines can be laid forth in the thread slug. Posters will be expected to adhere to those guidelines in the same way in which we're expected to adhere to the spoiler marking policy in show threads.

Of course if someone comes in and types - You're all fuckers, we could delete it, but why? What we'd actually want to do is educate the person on the ways of this community, and then, if that person refuses to play by our sandbox rules, we deal with them.

We had anti-Joss crusaders come into the Firefly thread a while back. We didn't shut down the thread because of that. We dealth with the problem. The Natter thread got spammed by "Christian Dollar Store". We didn't shut down the thread, we dealt with the problem.


Kat - Feb 17, 2003 9:32:01 am PST #4509 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

So to be sure I'm clear, you want a war thread which won't get "too political." A war thread to discuss what's going on and the buffista perspective on it, as long as politics stays out of it?

Huh. Not sure I'm understanding the point of the thread then.


Kat - Feb 17, 2003 9:41:07 am PST #4510 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Also wanted to add... even Lyra Jane, who is a huge proponent of thread creation (sorry if I'm mischaracterizing you, Lyra Jane, but I'm calling it how I see it based on your support of new threads) feels that politics is outside the scope of this board. (See Lyra Jane "Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier" Jan 3, 2003 12:13:36 pm EST for context).

I'm not sure you can start a war thread and honestly believe to separate it from politics in general. Morevoer, I'm also not sure if I thought outside the usual buffista mainstream that I would want to post about it because I wouldn't want it to be considered "too political or overly argumentative."