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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


DavidS - Jan 28, 2003 12:09:32 pm PST #3796 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It's not the only reason. It's simply the most important reason.

So sorry. That's a key distinction.


Lyra Jane - Jan 28, 2003 12:10:04 pm PST #3797 of 10001
Up with the sun

I am still piping up about tableing discussion of new threads until we figure out what is going on with Buffy and Angel, in which case I think we certainly will need a raison d'etre other than natter.

Modified proposal (I know, I said I was out of this discussion, but oh well): we table the larger "where do we go from here?" question and focus on the specific threads that had been proposed as of yesterday. I'd like to see movies, general TV-NAFDA and general TV-Unamerican. I'm not in a rush, but ISTM the time to start those threads is about now, both because of sweeps and because the big holiday movies are still in theaters.

Also, why do the Foamies need a separate thread, rather than being in movies?


§ ita § - Jan 28, 2003 12:10:48 pm PST #3798 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

core members

There's that concept again ...

why do the Foamies need a seperate thread?

Separate from which thread? Natter?


victor infante - Jan 28, 2003 12:11:41 pm PST #3799 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Also, I think we need to do something (I am not sure what), about core members (including myself) wanting to stop reading Bureacracy. This seems wrong, although maybe everyone is just testy because of the cold, like everyone in my office!

You may have something there. Still, I think everyone needs to step back again and take a deep breath.

As far as I'm concerned--and I'm speaking only for me here--everyone's opinions and experience are valued, no one needs to prove their street cred, and nobody needs to prove their identity. People overreact. It's life. Best to just get past it.


Lyra Jane - Jan 28, 2003 12:11:53 pm PST #3800 of 10001
Up with the sun

I edited, ita, because I had the same question when I reread. Separate from general movies talk.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 28, 2003 12:16:18 pm PST #3801 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I'm sorry about the core members thing. I think by core members I mean anyone who might care about the future of the board, which I assume is pretty much everyone posting here. Since board decisions are made here, people starting to want to ignore bureacracy could lead to decisions being made while many people aren't actually reading.

I agree certainly with the backing off for a few days approach.


Michele T. - Jan 28, 2003 12:36:53 pm PST #3802 of 10001
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Msbelle -- you'll always see the right-hand column, because the feeling was that it might be easy to forget these very important threads are here if you could blink them away with Message Center. A "mark entire board as read" button might be nice for later, to zap all those unread messages in threads you only occasionally read, but it'd be way low on the priority list.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Jan 28, 2003 12:37:40 pm PST #3803 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

I think TV-Unamerican probably isn't needed. If I want to talk about Unamerican TV (and sometimes I do), I can go to the nice slow moving Unamerican thread.

Just my two pennies.


Anathema - Jan 28, 2003 12:39:23 pm PST #3804 of 10001
Jonathan Will Always Be My Hero

Perhaps I can ease the core member's fears by saying that I'll never post another flip out like that again. Regardless of how justified I may have feel it was, it was pretty stupid and something I deeply regret.

And I don't see myself ever worrying about it again. Some people have sent me some nice emails, so I don't quite feel so much one-against-the-world any longer. And if I ever feel that way again, I'll just slink away tail between legs before I lose my cool like that again.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 28, 2003 12:46:14 pm PST #3805 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I think I am never speaking again because I keep putting my foot in my mouth, but I didn't mean that you, Schmoker, were the reason people were staying out of the thread. I just meant that the general tone of the thread lately has been making the conflict averse amoung us want to go stick their heads in the sand.