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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


John H - Jan 27, 2003 2:18:39 pm PST #3640 of 10001

I'm not mieksie.

Me neither. But if anyone asks, I am Spartacus.

until he does something actionable in his new incarnation--and you can't prove the guy in the moustache is the same guy--you don't have a legal leg to stand on

OK my question right now is exactly that -- what if we could prove it? And what if he admitted it? Surely you would agree with banning him if he came here and posted "yeah, I am mieskie"?


Connie Neil - Jan 27, 2003 2:19:53 pm PST #3641 of 10001
brillig

Yes, I would. And if he said he wasn't, would you say, "Oh, sorry for the accusation"?


John H - Jan 27, 2003 2:20:17 pm PST #3642 of 10001

Sorry don't want to go back and edit that in the thick of it, but what I should have said is:

until he does something actionable in his new incarnation--and you can't prove the guy in the moustache is the same guy--you don't have a legal leg to stand on

I think that's ambiguous.

Until he does something actionable in the new incarnation, or we prove he's the same guy, we can't do anything.

One or the other is enough.


John H - Jan 27, 2003 2:21:50 pm PST #3643 of 10001

if he said he wasn't, would you say, "Oh, sorry for the accusation"?

First I would say "there are so many coincidental similarities between the two of you, you know that's going to be hard for a lot of people to believe, right?".


Laura - Jan 27, 2003 2:22:22 pm PST #3644 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

One or the other is enough.

Yes.


Kristen - Jan 27, 2003 2:22:44 pm PST #3645 of 10001

What Connie said. And, also, how do you prove it unless he admits it?


Connie Neil - Jan 27, 2003 2:23:30 pm PST #3646 of 10001
brillig

I think that's ambiguous.

I was going on your premise of calling the cops on some guy in a moustache. If you did call the cops and accused an innocent man of being a harrasser, you've got the grounds for a lawsuit.

Our current situation is unprovable either way. We have only our individual words that we any of us are who we are--except for those cabals of people who *say* they've met each other. Oh, and some pictures. I may be mieskie, for all you know, running a clever split personality. We're going to have to trust each other eventually.


Lyra Jane - Jan 27, 2003 2:24:40 pm PST #3647 of 10001
Up with the sun

First I would say "there are so many coincidental similarities between the two of you, you know that's going to be hard for a lot of people to believe, right?".

John, it sounds like your mind is pretty made up. How is anyone supposed to answer that? If you have evidence about it from the email, I would like to know what that is.

If he is mieskie, he's trying to play by our rules, which means the suspension worked. If he's not, he's done nothing actionable.


Jessica - Jan 27, 2003 2:25:25 pm PST #3648 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

May I just say that if someone were talking in Bureaucracy about a private email I'd sent them without my explicit permission, unless it were a suicide note or a death threat*, I'd be pretty fucking pissed off about it.

That's just beyond inappropriate.

[*I'd be pissed off in those two cases too, but as a third party, I'd agree that they warrant public inquiry.]


Cindy - Jan 27, 2003 2:26:47 pm PST #3649 of 10001
Nobody

John said he wasn't going to, Jess.